#454 How To Get Out Of A Rut w/ Eric Readinger and Law Smith | Sweat Equity Podcast® the #1 comedy + entrepreneurship podcast
Eric went on the Mindf*ck podcast and got a raw doggin on his noggin. Law was in a rut and now in an upswing. Both introduce the show by signing the theme song from Saved By The Bell: The College Years.
Overcoming motivation struggles. (10:59)
Comedy, trauma, and prioritizing tasks. (15:52)
Creativity, work ethic, and mental health. (23:11)
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Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 0:02
see, here's what I'm saying.
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Never seen such a view before, something, something before my eyes. So much for me to explore. It's where my future lies. You know, I'm standing at the end of tomorrow, something in the future. For me, it's all up to me. How far ago it's my time to break away. I'm standing at the end of tomorrow, today.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 0:37
Man, we got to start again with a 90s theme song like that,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 0:44
yeah, you want to do the ads now?
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 0:46
No, no. I don't even know if we can. We might have peeped already that that's yeah, we can do. Okay, fine.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 0:53
Do you have them ready? Yeah, dude,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 0:56
of course, I always have them ready, ready to go, because we're the number one comedy business podcast in the world. What? We won more awards, and I forgot to put them in the rundown somewhere. We're like, really good and stuff. We won more fake awards, guys. I mean, I mean real awards. It's not a trophy. We want them for 2024 already.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 1:19
I know. Well, I mean, it's obvious,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 1:21
buy this trophy. Tell everybody about it. Corporate vision magazine.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 1:26
Well, don't off. I mean, it still nice to get the thing. There's
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 1:29
no way anybody from that shell corporation has listened to this podcast. If you How dare you, if you have, get at me. We know one person that listens. Sure about that our last guest on the show that asked to put their episode down. Yeah, we'll get to it. Yeah, we'll get around to it. This episode is brought to you by zuppiac, the first search optimized AI writer. Zuppiac just launched the first AI writer on the market where search data is integrated into AI writer workflow, no knowledge needed about SEO to create content that will have better search Impact in seconds, not hours. Zepp.com, Z, u, p, y, a, k.com, promo code, sweat. Where's our producer and third Mike going? Why is he leaving? John Paul, give a Hey, if you want to be cool, unlike our producer and third Mike that just walked out, subscribe to the Bible, Eric. Eric, that was pretty good. I was almost one for one on that. Subscribe to the podcast. Give us a little five star, write a review, share the show with a friend, coworker, a loved one, and let's get this party started.
Speaker 2 2:42
It's called sweat equity. Ruined.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 3:02
It listening to the sweat equity podcast. Um, did he really just bounce? Yeah, what
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 3:15
a chicken. Did
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 3:15
he like leave? Yeah, like, drove away,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 3:17
bro, just today, I was all the I was messing around with the podcast soundboard. And I had he's a chicken in there
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 3:23
for three years, the gentleman series, and I took it out. Oh my gosh, today you can get that other one. I
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 3:30
don't want you to George. I could actually do it right? I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 3:34
don't want you to act like a chicken. I want you be a chicken. Don't
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 3:37
get crazy. I want that one Wes, you know,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 3:41
that that scene with a coked up guy in a chicken outfit in a mansion with gangsters telling him to be a chicken. He's a chicken. It was worth it. Yeah, it was. Have others. You got more? What else we got in here? Because you're a chicken. This is why we're number one. This is what this is. You want
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 4:03
to hear say it.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 4:06
You know, good job. The mom, Lucille, had it. I might have it because she reminds me of my aunt. For some reason
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 4:15
you've mentioned that well, so you're hot. Okay.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 4:18
Shout out to Ann Mullis, what's up top Realtor in South Tampa. Oh
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 4:22
man, successful, huh? She's
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 4:24
80, still pretending not to smoke in her car.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 4:28
Oh man, good for her. Yeah,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 4:30
and always choose gum, but blows bubbles in the molars. You know, one of those people,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 4:36
it's always, it's like a loud like, it's a slap, not as much, yeah, it's like a tick sound.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 4:41
No, you don't like it, hearing it all the time in conversation, but you're jealous, because it's like someone who can whistle really well, you know the two fingers in the in the mouth? Yes, God, you
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 4:51
look mad because you can't do it. I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 4:53
can't you can do it. No, okay. I was like, I can get a good whistle. I wish I can do that.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 4:59
I can't do that. I can barely whistle regular anymore. I forgot how to
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 5:05
bad, yeah, but like that sounds like you're you're trying to get free bird going at a bar. Free Bird, my lips don't work, by the way. I don't know if I ranted on here about this, but free bird becoming a joke, uh, kind of call out from the audience, a Heckle, if you will. That song still rocks It's the best song. Rock's
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 5:28
is good, yeah, good Okay.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 5:32
Not badass. You sure about that? Not bad. Pause, You sure about that? Yeah, I'm
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 5:38
sure. Okay,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 5:39
we still got the Yeah, we still got the manager, yeah,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 5:42
he's not going anywhere.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 5:43
Don't Okay, great. I'm really flummoxed, because we were promised our former all the time producer, if you go back a couple 100 episodes, he was in every episode as our third mic, making it weird for us.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 5:59
Yeah, 100 you think it was a
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 6:02
couple 100, it was a while ago. But I'm saying, you know, is there a lot? But because you're a chicken, he did every episode for a good, good while, yeah, in the off, in their old office studio, and then I but
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 6:15
then he had a divider, right? Yeah, that's kind of cool producer. It was very cool. But that's why,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 6:20
you know, and I wasn't even gonna bring up, like abortion to get them all riled up.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 6:24
Thank you. Thank you.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 6:28
Just ask questions, like, I don't know what it is, yeah. I mean, your face just go,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 6:35
damn it. You know, I just have I feel like responsibility. Yeah, no, not what I said. You love it. No,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 6:44
you, you buy them for friends as
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 6:46
gifts. That's hilarious gift. It's married man.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 6:51
It's a really good gift. $600 Jesus, spinning a lot. Yeah,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 6:55
geez, never mind. Um,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 6:57
I heard that's the going right on. Oh,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 6:59
yeah, that's true. You're like, oh, really quick with that pricing. I've heard it referenced by a lot, by a lot of front desk people,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 7:08
former guest on the show, former multiple time guest on the show, John Jacobs, you know, he touts that, right? He's had, he's had about eight of them. And, you know, next one's free. I think, I think that's how
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 7:23
it was, yeah, you know, it's all about volume.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 7:27
I mean, that in that crazy and he would hook up his strippers,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 7:31
dude, and I'm like, Dude, that just blows my mind. The fact that he's still
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 7:37
alive is kind
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 7:38
of cool, yeah, oh, that's badass.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 7:40
I mean, that kind of reckless abandon is like, just,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 7:42
I mean, he had to flee to Europe.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 7:44
Maybe he might. I think he's in New York again. I don't know. He's a vagabond.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 7:49
I mean, he makes stuff happen.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 7:51
Look, I look at his his life via social media, and I'm like, Man, that I might be him. I might be wandering if I didn't have kids. Yeah? Like, I think every dad has that fantasy for about five seconds, right? Of like, oh, man, be kind of tight to live in a van or a car or on the street,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 8:11
yeah, after you close the door to the kids, putting the kids in, you walk around to the driver's side. Oh, fantasy moments.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 8:18
Oh, I mean, as soon as my daughter's yelling about me because she's nervous about something going on. Like, we had to make a big poster for my son, so it's not even her project. And I can feel her like energy change of, like, alpha, oh no. And I had to explain, like, your brother's the lead on this. You said you would help, right? She goes, I want to be the lead. Like, legit, no, like fury. Look, with that, she's gonna be a CEO, dude, like, of psycho fortune 100 CEO. I'm in trouble. Man. It was like, I had to send her in time out. Gonna fire you, bro. I don't want to work for her, that's for sure. No, she still kind of half believes I'm the Thor of Tampa Bay, a lie I made up and said, because she upset me, I made it rain outside so we're I still got a little kid setting the
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 9:11
bar nice and low for yourself. I had to write a like, a what happens when it rains? And they're like, stop making it rain. She's
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 9:18
She does the thing where she's like, You didn't make that happen. I go, Well, no, I can make it happen. I just let the weather be. I have to improv. Oh yeah, you know, it's like singing to your kids in the car. It's kind of just your own fun inside joke, yeah, sure. Like, they kind of hate it, yeah? Oh yeah, you know. And they're like, oh my gosh, turn this down. Go. You got headphones? You know they don't work. Yeah. I'm like, Let's put on some Bonnie Taylor, Tyler, Tyler. And
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 9:52
then you do that to mispronounce it five times, and you can't move on until you find out
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 9:57
Major Dad brain, what's going on? On your world, anything interesting?
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 10:04
Oh, the podcast you were gonna upload that I did solo. I talked about being on the mind podcast with cool I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 10:13
wouldn't, yeah, so if you're listening right now, previous episode I got in. I uploaded a little too late. I wanted to get it on Monday. It was on Thursday. Little, little behind the scenes. It's Thursday as we're recording this. So how was getting your brain Your mind penetrated? It
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 10:30
was good. It was good. Was
Speaker 3 10:32
he slow? No. Did he take
Unknown Speaker 10:35
it out? First Dental,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 10:38
raw dog, your nog. I
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 10:41
mean, I like, afterwards, I was like, now we have to get him back on so I can ask him questions about what was
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 10:46
happening. So walk us through it. We
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 10:48
got some time. Yeah, it was basically Eric, what's, what's, what's happening.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 10:52
This is Chris King, right, yes, yeah. Great guest. It was couple episodes back. If you want to hear him.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 10:58
Sorry about the audio. We don't know. Yeah, he was just like, what? What's going on? You know, I explained, I'm in a rut. Normally, I'm pretty self motivated. And, I mean, we just went through what's been going on with me for the last two years or so, as
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 11:19
we're recording his Episode You're a guest on is not up yet, right? Okay,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 11:24
yeah. So basically it came down to figuring out why I'm not motivated, and the the end result was basically him figuring out that
Speaker 4 11:43
I don't like but basically it was like, What do I want to do? Like, you know? And I was like, I want to make people laugh for a living, yeah. So the reason why I'm not doing that is because in the past, I've seen it as something, for me, like, as something like, interesting. So, like, I just put it aside. But then he explained that
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 12:09
I'm waiting on this thing while this thing is waiting on me. I thought that was a nice little line.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 12:17
It's always great when you can turn a phrase, and you just flip it around and you sound so wise. Yeah, basketball is not shooting. You're shooting the best, huh? Whoa, dude.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 12:33
So, yeah, it was about just how I'm not I'm not doing it for the right reasons. I'm doing it because I owe the universe to do this thing, because it's like it's been there for a long time. We went back in my childhood, we talked about how, you know, I would watch comedians doing stand up like that,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 12:53
funny. Thank you. That's another part that is, yeah, vital to this. Yes, that's true. You don't have delusions of grandeur, right? Right there. That's a lot of comedy, yeah, in the beginning, at least, yeah.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 13:05
So he ended it sort of saying, like, I'm going to put the fear of God into you, because for him, he he paralleled his own life and said, You know, I had to have everything taken from me before I was, like, fully woken up to what I need to do. I was like, Man, I feel like, all that track sort of, you know, like, okay, you know, so it was good.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 13:33
Dark Night rises,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 13:34
yeah,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 13:35
that's why that movie rips. Once
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 13:37
school gets out, man, I'm gonna get some energy, yeah,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 13:41
and agencies getting a lot of work, getting ready for you to come back into the mold, come back in there. Because, like you said a while ago, just kind of flippantly, we're just kind of doing this so we could around and do sketches and stand up and write all that, you know,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 13:59
after ultimately, we have the same paying bills and, yeah, we have the same ideas and what
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 14:04
we should do and being aloof to our kids after
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 14:07
that, that's not true. I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 14:09
wish I could be aloof, dad. I don't have that ability like I hear. I can't turn it off if they, if they say, I wish I could just zone out every dad.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 14:18
I know we'll be calling you aloof before you know it. Oh,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 14:21
they think I'm aloof. I put my headphones in, don't get me wrong, but I'll be like, what I can't, not but if I don't have them in, I can't, I still have to, like, I can't, just do like every dad I've ever seen in my life, and just not hear it at all.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 14:38
I know, you know, yeah, well, I'm past that part. I'm all ready to feel like middle schooler,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 14:44
you got that, but you had that skill. I've seen it. Yes, thank you. No, no, bad. I
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 14:51
don't talk to Avery now is like your dog. I knock, I knock on the door. It's closed, obviously. Uh. And she's like, What do you want? Yeah, that's me, not anything. But she's just like, okay, just matter of fact, right? Just like, Okay.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 15:07
Does that catch you off guard? You're
Speaker 1 15:09
like, no, like, Okay, well, yep, everything looks good here. Check light bulbs. Door looks level, okay. Well, I'll talk to you later. Yeah,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 15:20
it's like, okay, no, it's good that you like that says all that was what I could do there.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 15:24
It's good your kids are just a little bit older, because I can just look at that as a track, yeah. And like, like, my daughter woke me up Monday night, I was outside, came back in there. They were presumably asleep in like, the one second I didn't look on my phone, because I'll watch him like a nanny cam on my phone from outside after I put him to bed, in like the one second I put it away and walked upstairs, or whatever. She was crying. Of course, I peed the bed, and I was like, and then I was like, I don't have to tell you where I'm going
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 16:04
to you. I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 16:05
had to get my steps in around the parking lot. Is that okay? Yeah, you
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 16:10
know something I just remembered about the blind podcast.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 16:14
I got more questions so, well,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 16:16
this was just something. I was like, you know, you do it afterwards. And you're like, Wait, was he testing me?
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 16:23
Am I his protege? Does
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 16:25
he want me to be like him? We were talking about, I can't recall if it was at the same time that this was happening, but like we're talking he was asking me, like, when am I when am I filtered? You know, like, when do I not just say what I want to say, sort of thing. I was like, well, in a professional setting, I'm pretty filtered, especially teaching. But at the same time he was had, he was eating food all like while we were talking on
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 16:56
this show, yes,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 16:59
the with you. Was he, I don't know, because I didn't say anything well, and I'm one, I'm like, was he eating? So to see if I would say something, to see if I was filter or not, I was like,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 17:09
damn it. Oh, a red herring, like, but
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 17:13
I feel like I should get credit now that I like, just thinking of it afterwards, like, credit.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 17:18
What was he eating? That that matters. He was,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 17:21
what was he eating? If
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 17:23
you say pineapple, I'm gonna nut. He had
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 17:25
a big half a watermelon. No, I don't remember. Yeah,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 17:30
it was his salad. Now, when he went through his life, I'm always like, man, mine's not nearly as bad as his upbringing kind of sounded. Yeah, you know, it's that thing of, like, your worst trauma is your worst trauma. It's like, it's the same, it's maybe comparatively, it's not this, right? But like, it's the same for you as it is that for that person, whatever, that's where your scale is set to. Or, as I think Seinfeld said, like there's comics that they, most of them have the trauma in their childhood, or they get it later, yeah, yeah. And we've, we've kind of, yeah,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 18:08
I feel like, you and I got it later,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 18:09
yeah. But, you know, I was thinking about you a lot because I was kind of a rut. No, I was just in a rut. And I was like, Eric, Oh, I haven't had one of these in a while, you know, like, stressed, overwhelmed, but not able to do right normally, you know, a normal clip, and then not sleeping, and that me up. And so because you feel that you're not
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 18:31
getting done right, which makes you feel shitter. And then you're like, What's the point? Yeah, and
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 18:35
then it just hits a stop sign. You're like, all right, I'm gonna not worry about this, because I have to sleep at some point. I can't do the first act of Fight Club. Kind of am I awake or asleep kind of thing, because I got to drive my kids to school back that feels drunk, yeah, you
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 18:53
know when you retire, yeah. Am I awake or asleep while I'm driving and
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 18:57
so, like I've talked about over the years on the show like I was, I try to get back to the habit list the routines like, be very strict about it, be very conscious of it. For you, though, I want to go back to, you know, doing comedy for others. I think, to me, I think you will put everybody else's needs to have yours, and that, that would be my kind of diagnoses, right?
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 19:26
Well, that's what basically we were saying. Well, there, yes,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 19:30
but it was like doing comedy for the fans. I don't want you. I hope you don't get the fans. Okay,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 19:38
universe, okay, the greater whatever it is. I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 19:42
rather that. But if you become one of those stand ups that gets into it, you go, I do it for the audience. You know, this is my thing. This is my craft. I'm gonna punch you in the nose. No, yeah, because I those guys suck and they're not funny usually, yeah, they're usually the world's biggest acts. Yeah, they
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 19:58
played. It's. YouTube. Do
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 20:00
you feel like you're, you're not doing your like, I think about it, like, I gotta get my it took me a while to unfuck this out of my life. Like, I gotta do my basic I was like, I'm gonna not try to do 100 things anymore. Yeah, and go to all these parties and events I don't even want to go to a lot of the time and have these meeting pick your brain meetings and all that and like, lunches that don't matter. There's no point to them. Yeah, I really just go quick,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 20:30
20 minute chat, just to get know each other. Maybe we could mutually beneficial. Don't get me
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 20:35
wrong. I love a good love a good lunch chat. But it's, it's you got to drive there, it's an hour at least, and then another drive back. So it's a two hour midday thing when, you know, time is of the essence, almost always. And it's like, you know, 20% of the time it's a good lunch when you get those. But, like, so it stopped. I, like, really eliminated a lot of that out of my life. Like, that's good. Pandemic help too, because it's like, everybody's like, all right, you're gonna filter out who's really your friend isn't, kind of there. But I was like, I'm gonna focus on comedy in no particular comedy my kids, you know, my own health, you know, work, and that's I put comedy as part of this, yeah. And so it's just like that that really made it a lot easier to go all right, this is the base of I got to get done, yeah? And then go from there as far as I need to go with all that, yeah?
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 21:35
But actually helps you reprioritize too. Like, there's often times where you might have something that you like, I gotta do this, I gotta do this. I gotta do this. It's like a do I actually have to do this. And am I thinking of it in a way that's making it harder on myself? Am I doing it the best way I can do it to just get it done? Like, what am I missing here? Because sometimes I'll do it, or it's like, I didn't think of it. I could do it that way. I should just, you know, and then within five seconds or something? Yeah,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 22:01
yeah, there's that kind of be mindful of the thing you're doing at the same time. I try, I've been trying to test myself, like, maybe I shouldn't have my AirPods in all day, and I might actually get more done than or more creative. Yeah? So I've pulled back on that. And yeah, I could definitely
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 22:21
see more creative. It depends why you're listening to podcasts, yeah. And that's different. What it does, I feel like it would be better. Well,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 22:29
yeah, for sure. And what it does is it feels like you're, you've had conversations with people, but I've just been like, working by myself all day, kind of thing, you know, laughing well. And then I referenced Dan soder on the honeydew. This one helped me knock out of a funk. Two was he talks about a really traumatic childhood, and he's like, I didn't sit in it. And I realized I was like, doing all these other things to not have to sit in, in that, yeah, to get out of it, right? So it was like, he was like, I was I was avoiding it, and I wasn't just having to deal with it and sit in it. You can distract yourself with a lot of with work. Honestly, a lot of people do a lot of guys do that for sure.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 23:10
It's like, there's a big pile of and you're gonna eat that pile of one way or another. You can take little bites, or you can just dig in and eat it all at one time,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 23:20
eat a Buick. As Corolla says, Okay, you can eat a Buick if you want to put a little bit on your cereal every day you'll eat a whole Buick. Yeah,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 23:30
piece by piece. Yep.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 23:33
So what have you done anything different since? Not really. And are you gonna do anything different after this episode? Yes,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 23:43
I have done. I did. I recorded another solo episode. After that one,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 23:48
I would say that I can slowly see your brain coming back online, yeah, with more creative you're doing with the solo stuff
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 23:56
I actually saw. I forgot this. I was writing something, something exciting that's doable for us. Okay, give it away, okay, yeah, but, uh, yes, I have been slowly getting the creativity back. But yeah, to me, was just telling Rocco today. He was like, boy. He was talking about, I've abandoned
Unknown Speaker 24:21
my boy. He's
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 24:21
talking about, he's like, I feel like I got better at gorilla tag, his VR gorilla tagging game. Oh, he's like, he's got, I got better. I probably only got like, 1% better, though, yeah. And I was like, learning moment, you know, 1% every day, yeah, adds up, and it's true. And he's like, actually was probably like, half a percent. I'm like, that still counts, all right? Above zero counts. Anything above zero, yeah, go in the right direction.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 24:47
You get better. You're getting worse, right?
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 24:50
There's no. I mean, you don't have a neutral day. Did you do better than you did yesterday? Somehow, the
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 24:55
incremental, right? Oh, yeah, that was your podcast. And so. The podcast died. I've
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 25:00
still been playing the music at the beginning. I've
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 25:03
listened. No, I get it for free. What? Yeah, yeah, I'll throw solo episodes interesting.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 25:10
There's a little easter egg in there to see if you were listening. I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 25:13
saw the summary. I saw something about me being a professional wrestler. Nope,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 25:17
that's not the Easter egg. Oh, that's real. You're gonna be a professional wrestler. I'm
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 25:21
gonna do roids after I turn 40, to be a falcon guy. You're
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 25:24
gonna get one of those leather things that they put on their arm, and you're gonna have a falcon fly, and it's gonna be rad. I'd
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 25:30
be lying if I said I didn't daydream about being a falconer at some point, right? But I hate birds. You forget that birds don't like us. I hate them. To
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 25:39
like the bird, you have to love them. It's a prop. No, they you think Jake the Snake? Roberts loves snakes? No, you
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 25:46
think that's gonna be my character is a falconer. Yes, hasn't that already been done? Was it? I think so. Like, they've had a lot of characters. I was thinking about wrestling today in terms of AB creative testing, and they will literally just go, You know what? You're Bruce the barber now. And you're like, okay,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 26:05
yeah,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 26:06
I'm a barber. That's my whole thing. That's my shtick.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 26:09
Just throw him out there, make him come up with his story on the spot. My
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 26:14
my son's been doing the John Cena thing to me. Non stop. The hand wave in the did
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 26:19
you see it? Though,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 26:20
I couldn't I go, where'd you go? Oh my gosh, it's a good dad joke. If someone's wearing camouflage too. Yeah, I do that all the time. Well, so if you sat down and then, like, a thoughtful kind of plan and outline, you know, the end is the beginning, as our former guest, the red beard dude said that we talked about kind of everything's should be kind of seen reverse engineering, a little bit.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 26:48
Good question, good question. Uh, you're
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 26:53
thinking about, thinking about, I'm
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 26:54
thinking about it. It's in my head. Yeah, not even really, though, for me, it's just like, I'm just get moving in the right direction and let that, let it build, but the momentum build, that's good. And then it'll, you'll get to there, it'll come to me, yeah,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 27:11
well, at a certain point too, you will it. I was when I was like, depressed. I was like, it's almost a little selfish in a weird way, yeah, because, like, I'm so mired in, like, well, people gave because I was Eeyore kind of, or I was like, manically talking to everybody about what's going on. And I sounded like I was on coke all the time. It was like, Oh, this is thirsty. But it was like, it's about me all the time kind of deal. And I was like, at a certain point, I was like, I don't, I don't. I don't even give a I'm tired of my hearing my own voice, right? No, that's the same repetitive thoughts, rumination. Yes,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 27:57
I feel like that's when you have your breakthrough. Yeah, when you're like, I don't care anymore, whatever well, and like you just, that's basically what's happening, is like you stop putting that energy into whatever it is, and just being like, this is kind of boring,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 28:13
yeah? And like, it'll minimize it when you hear real traumatic chef, sure, for me, at least, yeah, that helps kind of exactly, you know, comparisons, the thief of joy kind of thing, right? It kind of works both ways, over
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 28:28
our heads, and food to eat, yeah? And
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 28:31
it really, it doesn't matter, because now, when you have kids, you're just like that. I have to make sure I'm good enough for them first, yes and doing just enough, the Milton Berle rule, as Bill Simmons used to quote, You know what that is, no. So he talked about Milton Berle in the back green room of SNL, like in the 70s. I want to say so Milton Berle was well endowed. I was
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 29:00
going to say, is it about as big And they used
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 29:03
to do someone, you sure about that someone would, it's in the SNL book. I know that that came out, like early, 2000s I think. But it was like they would have, like, a who's Dick's bigger contest, because, you know, we're talking mid coke era, and in an SNL, which is probably the epicenter in New York. And so they pull it out, and he he would win, and then he turned to someone go, I just pulled out enough, yeah, to win. And you're like, Damn, that is a legendary that's cool piece and and kind of slogan. So it's like, you're when you're just doing the bare minimum. You're like, this is the d minus in life. It's getting me by. I don't love it either, but, you know, it's not an F, right? And you kind of justify it that way, yeah, yeah. I
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 29:59
don't know if. That's the best way to think of it. No,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 30:01
because it's but it's not an app. It's a thing, butting up against rearing children.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 30:08
Oh, that too, yes,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 30:12
I need to work on that. Speaking of P Diddy.
Unknown Speaker 30:19
thing sucks.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 30:20
The diddler p didler,
right in front of all our eyes, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, Mace pretended to be a pastor to get out of this complicated system he has on people I didn't know anything about that you ever heard that? Yeah, Mace,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 30:38
it makes me too like I saw the video of him and Justin Bieber. And it was like, So, I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 30:44
think it was like, so, like, apparently, on Epstein Island, what they do is, like, they get video of you doing something, they make sure that you were going to do something. Then they got you, yeah, now you're with them. You're stuck. And now it's like a mafia thing, like they, they got dirt on you, dude, you're not gonna out us. Yeah, right. And so what's it called? P Diddy apparently used to do the same thing. And I'm like, Mace is brilliant, because there's no avenue you can quit, like, at the prime Right, right. You're making him money. 1998 99 Yeah. And he, we know what he does with his money. Now, it's extravagant pedophilia. Allegedly. We don't want to get sued, but it's one of those things where I was like, that's so brilliant, if you think about it, because you can't mess with a pastor, right? Especially in the 90s, yeah? Like, you're gonna come at him, and he's like, Yeah, Pastor now. And Mason slowly backs out of the room, by the way, good podcast, Mason Cameron, and they only talk about sports. It's pretty funny. Oh, cool, yeah. But it's one of those things where I was like, That's how complex he made his system. The diddler, Diddy. His name is Diddy.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 32:09
He really he's hiding in plain sight that I'm saying,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 32:12
I've been talking about like we just put up with him right to get to Biggie,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 32:18
like we didn't even Puff Daddy. What the hell does that mean? And now you're like, oh, that
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 32:23
could be him. He could be saying, I love sucking That's I'm the daddy of all suckers. Puffing.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 32:29
Could you know, you puff it, right? Little puff right?
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 32:35
And we used to listen to him just ramble at the beginning of songs. Yeah, right. Uh huh, yeah. Like, he would occasionally do a verse that you're just like, get to the next verse, get to,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 32:46
we'll make it through money the next guy,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 32:48
you get the middle slot. Mo, money. Mo, problems, because you stink, yeah, right, that that's for the bad the bad boy rapper, the bad bad boy rapper, yeah, but it's like, Damn dude at every apex of celebrity. Do you just become a Or are you driven by your weirdo kink? Or is it you get there and it's like, Oh, you like little boys now, yeah,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 33:15
I don't get it. Like, I don't understand how you could fall victim to it. It's
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 33:20
got to be a driver. It's like, I need to be successful so I can do whatever I want,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 33:25
right? But, I mean, do they not have their limits, dude?
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 33:30
I just came up with a brilliant idea. Okay, hit me with no pedophile hunters. You know this? These, like amateur pedophile Hunter guys, yeah, I guess on YouTube and so you've never seen them.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 33:41
I mean, I know of it.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 33:43
It's wildly it. You'll get five, five videos, and you're like, this is kind of entertaining. And then you kind of start feeling like the pedophile hunters are pedophiles too. And right, I got you first before you could get me, because they'll be like, and then you find out they don't really get arrested after that, and they're kind of up any real sting that might go on. I saw
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 34:05
a spoof video where it was guys pretending to be pedophile hunters, and like, we got this guy says he's an eight year old boy, and he's coming over, they open the door, it's an eight year old boy standing there, and they're like, just ends. That's silence where they're just like
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 34:21
Well, the what they'll do is they'll, they'll find this guy, find these guys in public, and then they'll, they'll make them, like, do embarrassing stuff. Like, I need you to be a chicken, not act like a chicken, do what? They'll make them do, like, like that. Like, almost like, verbal hazing for
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 34:38
what? Or they're gonna, oh, or they're gonna call the cops. Look
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 34:43
these nebusy pedophiles. They don't they freak out because a they're all like, weird, introverted guys. So like, the fact that anybody's, like, talking to him in public with a camera on, yeah, but like,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 34:55
guys with the cameras, they're trying to pieces of too, if that's what they're doing, I
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 34:58
know, but they're not thinking. That they're like, oh I got caught.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 35:02
No, I'm not talking about him. The guys, you're making them do, act like a chicken and Like it's not, I know that's where it's like, What is your motivation? You
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 35:10
can't rabbit hold down these because it's diminishing returns after you're like, This is stupid, right? Well, just him up or arrest him or something, right? I
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 35:18
mean, what is what do you want here? If you want justice, call the cops if you
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 35:22
have a justice right? One of the best former YouTube channels I used to watch just people doing like, citizens rest and but like and it up any like, if they're actually, if the cops are actually going after a guy, it does up that case, right? So what's go the public? I mean, a public video of getting caught Joan's fabric parking lot with a pedophile Hunter, I guess is bad, but they don't have any friends anyway, kind of thing. So what are you gonna do? And it's weird when they catch a woman that's always really creepy to me. Guys, not so creepy. Well, no, it's creepy. I'm just saying. I made it sound like that. Is weird. Yeah, it's atypical. How about that? But, all right, my plan, my idea, is we could sell this device. We go vice you were cool 10 years ago. Remember that? Remember when you were cool? Now? Now you're a piece of You sure about that all vice stuff sucks. Now they used to be on the vanguard of real journalism, like guerrilla style journalism. We pitch it to them first, right? Okay, that and we we neg in the pitch, right? We go. Obviously remember, dude, you guys rocked at one point, right? Except for telling where John McAfee was, and then he got killed or suicided. But you know that happened right?
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 36:51
The Guy Who pooped through the through the but also
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 36:55
like a canopy. What was it? He pooped through a hammock, he had in a Belize, like compound on the beach, right? But still, a brilliant guy, that's what I heard. And that's his fetish. And it was very clear that was his thing. So I'm okay with it. It's gross, but, you know, two
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 37:17
consenting adults, right? I
Unknown Speaker 37:19
guess, right. Well,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 37:20
I mean, she's probably paying them a lot of money with
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 37:22
40 bodyguards with huge guns around this place. Yeah, I gotta rewatch that documentary. Um,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 37:29
what's pitch it to me?
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 37:31
We go pedophile hunt for real. We go get Diddy. He's in Antigua. He's in one of these countries. He can't get extradited. We go for America? We do this for America, and we, we pedophile hunt. P Diddy the didler. I mean, if that's not a tease, we gotta end this episode. That's the biggest. I
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 37:55
love it. I'm in right we where the hell is Antigua?
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 37:59
It's one of them islands where you store tax we'll find it's a tax shelter. There's no real military kind of place. He's in one of those places.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 38:08
Oh, man, so yeah, I mean resistance. We're gonna have
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 38:13
to go in blackface, probably to get into this. That's gonna be tough. That's gonna be a tough sell for vice
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 38:21
and me also, yeah,
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 38:23
I'm saying both of us.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 38:25
No, I mean the cell of blackface.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 38:29
Oh no, you love it. You were Mr T for Halloween last year. But that was out of respect. That wasn't a Al Jolson thing. That was like, Mr T. Why would we have to do blackface? I don't I think white guys on these Caribbean islands, when you he's insulated himself, just get
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 38:47
real we'll get real tan. Oh, you
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 38:49
know what? You know what? There's, here's, we'll come in from the inside. No pun intended. Don't be gross. We will be like, assistants on the on the property at first. Yeah, you know, we'll be like, Oh, I'm an AV guy, because we can do cord management kind of yeah, you know. And no one's gonna call us out on that
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 39:09
Plus, that helps with the surveillance boom, exactly. We have our own. We're installing a security system, yeah. And that security
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 39:17
system has a tiny little camera on top of the camera, right? Camera, another tiny camera, and we install another Wi Fi with a satellite router.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 39:26
Yes, we clone it, boom. Think about me. That's pretty much we know what we're doing. We need
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 39:31
to get a hold of mace to get some intel. And I just want to hang out. We should invite mace. Well, Mace, he might be our like Trojan Horse Inn kind of thing, right? Oh, Mace wants to do a concert at at pedophile aisle mansion. He
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 39:47
wants to do a makeup concert. He
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 39:49
wants to talk to you.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 39:50
He wants to do like, you know, Kumbaya concert for you. He
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 39:54
wants to talk about the Lord, right?
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 39:55
He wants this thing about the Lord, and that's it. He says two white guys.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 40:01
He says he doesn't want you to, he doesn't want you to go the way of Jim Baker, you know, like, you know Jim you don't know Jim Baker,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 40:10
it's pretty common name. I feel like the huge
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 40:14
evangelical preacher that had like the 700 club, see if you said Tammy Faye Baker, right? You got to watch the eyes, the eyes of Tammy Faye. Really good with Jessica Chastain as, as Tammy Faye. Baker, yeah, really. And Spider Man two, as Jim Baker, Andrew Garfield, oh,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 40:41
I don't know if I saw that one. It's
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 40:42
good. I mean, it's creepy, the fact that it, it's not, it's like, oh, man, this is what the season three of righteous gemstones about. They make like a vacation area, and they sell this resort timeshares, and that's how they made the little money. They did, right, right. They go. You have a lifetime access pass to this timeshare. And then it was a piece of property, yeah, and they failed.
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 41:12
I need to watch that. Yeah.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 41:15
All right. Well,
Eric Readinger, Fractional CMO, Producer and Head Of Media 41:16
I'm happy with it.
Law Smith Comedian Fractional CMO 41:17
I'm I really get how this turned I mean John Paul should have been too.
