#421: How To Know When To Be a Giver, Taker, and an In-Betweener w/ Preston Brown

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listening to the sweat equity podcast,

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Sounds like you're we're getting you in between a couple of meetings Is that about right? Yeah.

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Well, the serious question we have for you is what toothpaste are you using? Because word teeth are very white. This is a serious pocket very impressively white.

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Hey, you know, you only floss the teeth you want to keep it's something a guy told me one time and I didn't really listen. So I wound up getting the veneers.

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Well, you cheated. So money get veneers. That's our 10% No real story is like, I'm driving to a vacation house, my wife and I own and my little boy like his best friend. We invited his best friend and their family over to our house.

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And we're meeting these folks up at this vacation house right? And his dad is a dentist will we have a little group party there one day at my house like my wife and her good friend meets this guy named Spencer real nice guy. And

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Aaron's on the phone while driving up for vacation home. And she's telling her friend Karina Oh yeah, like guess what we're gonna go hang out with cruise like

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Aaron's like, well, you know,

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smile, and Karina goes Zadie and I don't know what flights at he needs. Like I don't know what that means. But you could tell she felt that he was hot because

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so like we get up there. I like that. You know, I kind of made fun of my wife. I was like, Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, cool. So we get up there and he's a dentist, so I'm like Alright, dude, what are you doing? He's like brother two years like fuck this like teeth aren't white teeth are when you have the news.

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My you know, I hate that word that terms so much. With one Zadie veneers. I hate veneers. I've never heard Zadie before, or you've been out of the dating game for a while. What does that mean? Well, I mean, it's I've only heard it from women. I've gone on dates with

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you know, swing, I'm hitting all the fours and fives around Tampa Bay right very well. What does it mean to my I am

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As you don't know, do you you don't mind I'm just a little slow today. Okay, relax.

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It's like a dude that kind of takes care of his ladies or something like that. I'll look it up. While you can make fun of me, okay. Oh, so z z plus daddy Tombow Yeah, Zadie. What is disease? I just don't like how it sounds like moist. Yeah. Not as bad as that. can repeat it a very handsome sexy mature man. I think that's how it was described me. I go, why don't you just tell me that? Just say that. That's odd. This why do we need? Why do we need that? I keep it if you never see this never seen it never heard it. Nothing.

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Good to know, I guess. Well, I mean, we're talking to King's daddy right now. In the business sense. In the real sense, do Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, that that goes without saying, guys. Smile.

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Zadie smile. You know, it's the charm that really comes through zoom that it exudes. We've got some questions. You know, we asked you the first time he came on, what advice would you give your 13 year old self? And, you know, we give everybody this chance. If you want to edit that at all. I know. You've probably thought about this episode. Coming up really? Every day since we last recorded it. Yeah, you I would guess you gained so much knowledge from us. When you came in thinking you're going to drop. Keep thinking of all the smart stuff we said before, and it applies to everything.

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I don't remember what advice I gave my 13 year old so the last time let's see, I'll get some new advice. So if you want that, let's see. I

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mean, people need love to. You know what? I used to be a mean guy. Not a mean guy. Most mean people. They're just not getting as much love as nice people out there. So next time you see somebody mean? Go give them a hug.

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Treat them nice mean people you'd love to. There's today's advice with 13 year old self. Do you feel that would have changed your course of life?

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Being nice, smooth things out. Okay. You know what? Got a lot of flies

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so much the other ship as my buddy my my comedian buddy Brennan T Gleason said Why the hell do I want flies?

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It's a weird saying. Let it through. I never thought of it. You know, you you grew up in El Paso. Last time you were on? You're telling a story about going with your dad in the pickup truck and having to go get invoices. Is that Is that true? Okay. Because you weren't gonna

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jam it. I had totally botched this one. I was sitting here. Good. Wow. He's I'm impressed that you remembered the interview. Yeah, no, I remember the good ones. And so

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you know, I remember that. That seemed to be a rough upbringing, that kind of in my head in shorthand way led to your entrepreneur, entrepreneurial kind of endeavors.

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But let's ask a silly question. Before we get back into that you want to pick one of these already know that I my new favorite ones. What's something crazy you think you can do that people will be like what? Like you think you can do that?

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Like I think like race a car, right? I don't know how to jump out of a plane with no parachute something crazy. Like what's something you think you can do or want to do? And everyone's like, well, you have a you think you have a special talent for this thing?

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What is a special talent that I think I can do that or desire? Yeah, just the desire of some kind. Like,

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I want to own a minor league soccer team. Alright, I'll give you a five year goal we're discussing today. Okay, so you know, October is our five year anniversary for my largest company when I bought it and we hit all of our goals blew my home apart. And we have a new goal that we're setting for October five years now I'm trying to put everything into alignment to kind of start working on this goal as soon as we can. Now you don't want to get a little head starts by October we're already median. And our goal for October five years from this coming October is we want to have our company with effectively a very strong debt and balance sheet position.

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Trajectory built the growth and we want to be able to give away 50% of the wealth regenerate every year every cent of all of our net profits to charities and we believe Wow. So you're you saw Tom shoes and you go hold my beer basically. I mean, and I was hoping for the minor league soccer you know sort of answer Yeah, that that one is a very noble

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quote. I become a part of this group recently in May they asked a really good question a bunch of brilliant guys Christian guys.

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And they send you normally looks at what can I make? What can I do? And they started asking questions like, What can I give? Yeah, how much can you get, like, adjust your goals, how much you can give? Holy smokes, it changes the tensions, changes, outcomes, it makes it more fun, really get to play a lot more. And man, when you're helping somebody when you're doing something right,

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embedded, you're helping them in a way that's like compelling. They start helping themselves and grows called Schilling. That's the juice in Sweden. Like, that's, that's what it's about.

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That's intriguing to me. Yeah. Because that I sort of, I feel like that applies for a lot of people, they're probably not doing their best because it's for themselves. Because I think maybe a lot of people sort of are motivated to helping others. But they're thinking of it in the wrong terms in terms of you know, entrepreneurship wise. Well, there's a question, what's the difference between fame and greatness?

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I don't know what you're famous for. Hitler, famous. Infamous, you're hoping for your help. That's why I meant right. This is all about doing the right thing. The guy next to you, without next year thing is all about documenting things all about like building your brand, building your, you know, image doing this. Like there's lots of folks on Instagram and famous. Some of them are also great. There's nothing wrong with being famous and great. But I would aim at greatness and then fame comes to fine, but like, you know, nothing wrong with being isolated. But just the greatest first and then go for thing.

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I really like it. Yeah. There's one of my favorite podcasts, your mom's house, they play a clip from

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a motivational

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entrepreneur, entrepreneurial, entrepreneurial speaker that talks about, you have to make money to be able to help other people for you got to make money first, then you can help us get to put it on your own facemask while the planes going down before you can put it on your kids. Yeah, you've you've gotten to that level now. And Mazel tov. We're not getting depressed, like a lot of people that get to that area, because you get there and you go, this is it. Right? And I thought things would be different. This is why a lot of famous people go crazy, right? Because they get to that, that pinnacle. And then they go, I'm still not I still I have a void to fill in. I can't figure it out. Seems obvious. I've got two pitches for this 50%

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that involve Eric and I, number one.

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I want to go with you, too. We wouldn't want to fly to El Paso go with you to church. And you'd have to donate the tithing. A lot of time thing in the collection plate all at once. Like a clown with just ribbons of dollars is coming out to get a hold on. Get one of those dollar bills, shooting machines. Yeah, and you you just aim it right down into the thing and just

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flies everywhere you come in with.

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Make it rain, cash,

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or check in an envelope. I I'll tell you what, like I do give to my church. I don't know if I'd give that much there though. Like I actually books a lot of my giving outside of the United States. Okay. Tough crowd. tough pitch. But I mean, yeah, I mean, it would be funny.

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I mean, you, they don't say how you have to give it doesn't have to be tacky, right? That's a double negative. All right. Here's the other one. This one, this one could remember Publishers Clearing House, you send us to do the check. We get the big novelty check. Wherever you want to send us to do to do it for you. If you don't want to fly charities, home office space, you know, we'll knock on the door unannounced Of course. Yeah.

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I mean, that sounds fun. That I just want to bring back but I feel like if you're donating, you're gonna be the one that's there. Yeah. Yeah, we'd be the one stealing the credit. All I can think of, we'll get a big picture. We'll get a picture of presidents face just as big as the check for sure. Oh, he's on the check. Yeah, that's, that's maybe the check itself has presidencies. Okay, yeah, that's cool. We'll fix it in post.

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What? So that's interesting, I think a lot about lately about all these big time CEOs. They get to a certain point, right, as they've been successful, and then they gotta figure that next thing out. And I feel like a lot of it goes into what you're doing and or kind of their own health, wellness journey as well. So you have like a lot to work on and Zuckerberg gonna fight it.

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out, Bezos might be doing roids you know, like, maybe

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you know there is this or in the gym, all those kinds of things. Sorry, what we said? Why not do all right? You know, like you can make all the money in the world you don't have your health, you're not going to join your ex wife will reward. You know, like

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you know if you think about the word wealth, it actually originated from the word health. Like, I'm I'm 41 today I could take my 20 year old self as well I'll do that again. I missed that shot when you got to do that, bro. Boom. Wait, why you gotta? Why do you gotta

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like books on your own focus on your wealth, focus on your family focus on your faith. Like, you know, for those listening, he just showed us his eight pack and a little bit of of the route of his day

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Sorry to cut you off just talking about given do not hit all like I like to look at where's the biggest problem? Where's the biggest fucking problem?

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Like most of us, we think that, you know, problems are some ways to avoid like, I think the biggest problem we probably have in society is we think we shouldn't have any problems. Figure out your biggest problem. Like if you're overweight, that's fucking problem. There's no fat people, right? So look at it and say, hey, you know, what do I need to do? Like look at your ancestry? What am I ancestors eat? Pretty good chance your diet plan should be more aligned with what theirs was maybe not with? Like, I don't know, McDonald's like maybe stopping cheeseburgers and McDonald's goes elk and Lancers from Scotland or whatever they were Highlanders. Okay, you probably hunted and ate a lot meat, you're probably going to die. Like, oh, my ancestors were Central and South American farmers instead of whatever, you probably need more than that, like, go go figure out what you need. Solve that problem. It's a health problem. It's a wealth problem. What if you're like, marriage is not going well? Like, what if you can't find somebody that would ever marry you like, but that's also a problem. You know? Like, you gotta you gotta go and figure out where do you have issues? What's the greatest issue in the dynavap of work on all areas every day? Like, what's wrong with each area of your day? Anyone I know that and I've got billionaire clients. And I'm, I'm not a billionaire. But I'm getting up there in

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a meeting today to establish a private office, actually have guys helped me manage my investments and all this other shit. Like, I was like, oh, yeah, let's go. And so we'll see. Maybe we will get to that V position family. But everyone I know, it was either the billionaire block or in the world changer block, because either way, you're very highly productive, right? They're focusing on the famous and focusing on the family but focusing on their faith and focusing on their finance. They're worrying about another one too. The other one is on me, it starts with Fu and ends with n fun, you know, you should focus on that one too. Most people don't have a should have a lot of that shit. Like why don't have fun. Why don't have fun with your fitness. Like why don't have fun with your finance, like why don't I want to get paid and your family like, how are you giving energy? How are you receiving energy receiving energy is paid giving energies family, but you got all of it out? I mean, different.

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Different gurus, Guru themselves in one area.

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And then they'll try to teach over here. I don't teach every area.

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But I can still haven't sticks back. You know what I mean? Yeah. High energy like I'm 41 years old. I've got like, 30 year old employees beer guns. Got about 35 year old friends and they're like, Dude, you have so much energy. I'm like, looking.

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Like there's so much epic shit to do. Like, I got five year old and seven year old. I want to keep up with that. I got a hot ass like, I want to chase her around the bedroom. I want to go home tired. Maybe I want to get work.

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Why? You know, we'll all go buy energy to camp.

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But we could just eat good food. Maybe

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drink less, smoke less. I mean, focus on all the different areas. All of us can important and we're the one we got the largest problem you dive into that one. You're gonna figure out success.

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Yeah, my biggest What's your biggest problem? What

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do you think is probably I'm not a cop knocking on the door.

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I was just thinking about what person said I was talking about how I saw the thing already. Where it was like my my 92 year old great grandmother tried on her wedding dress and she still fits in it. And it's like, hey, guess where all the other great grandmother's are don't fit in their wedding dress.

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Dead? Yeah.

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That's what I was thinking about. I was I was thinking my biggest problem is I'm too generous of a lover. Right you know, with all your time much. You're like too good. I totally think about let's dive into that right there.

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That's one that a lot of people have let's let's work on it right? So in life there's like three types of people you got your givers your match your

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is going to take this

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guy and at least at any one point in time you're one of those sort of the all people have probably at some point been a taker. If you're haggling in a fucking like flea market, you're probably a taker. That's okay. You're in that energy. You know, if you're like, a church, they're passing you're offering trade might be a giver, you might be a taker, who knows, but like, hopefully you're a giver at that moment, right? And then there's the mattress. There's the ones that won't like that exchange, like, hey, let's exchange value like, base money. deliver on the promise and product promising offer. It's your business. Okay, cool. Matching. Well, what's funny is givers judge takers, and takers givers.

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And I grew up in many ways taker.

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But then I learned to understand takers, I learned understand givers, and I learned understand metrics. There's nothing wrong with matching. There's nothing wrong with being generous being a giver, we've all done it. Some people default to that a little bit too much. But but those folks do judge the takers, right? Like you're a giver eyebrow like so if you if you look at somebody who is a taker, you're generally looking at them. And you're like, I can't trust that guy that guy's gonna like, you know,

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maybe, maybe, maybe take advantage, right?

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Yeah, we've only been there 1000 times when I was younger, for sure. I

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feel like I mean, professionally. I know, for a fact both of us. Yeah. Get better, you get better at sniffing that out? You know, hopefully, most people do. But maybe most people don't, I don't want to stop. I don't want to stop the flow, though. So if you're like, say I'm, I'm an entrepreneur, I'm a giver. Like you have to be you to go out and create a value proposition and figure out some way to tap into the market to beat everybody else's offer all you have to be a giver. And you're gonna spend what 510 15 years just like at work, slaving away, not working eight hour job you could have taken you're gonna go work 12 hours, 18 hours, because you got to find a way to make it work you're gonna give to create that right?

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Well, you're hoping enough managers will come and buy your product. And then you get some of those people to come in and takers and start taking advantage. But I will I will throw a kind of a presupposition here that I think happens entrepreneurs, as they go through that giver journey, they never lose the ability to be a giver. They always stay generous. But they graduate the giver to match or they master that one as well. And then they become a taker. Okay. And what I do is I take responsibility for making sure everybody receives what they need, I take responsibility to fill my cup first. Because I know when my cup runneth over, that I could be more generous than anybody else out there. But if I'm pouring from an empty cup that I meant, so I'm a taker, that takes responsibility to make sure that everybody's

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there's nothing wrong with any of the three but you have to figure out a way to balance the approach. If you have any one of the energies, it's too strong. You put a taker in a room full of givers.

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Rabo givers, you put a giver, in a room full of takers, that person is going to be bankrupt in an hour. Because that's just their nature. That's their default. You can't have a default, you got to have the ability to consciously think, who do I need to be right now? Where do I need to go? How do I need to step up? Like you're constantly giving, that's beautiful. Sometimes you need to be taken. And the only thing and understanding the only way a taker is going to understand us if you take back

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if speak their language to them. If I get in a room, there's got posturing.

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You know what I'm gonna do?

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I'm gonna posture right back so fucking hard so fast, because that's the language he speaks. It's the only thing that dipshit understands. Me or, yeah, I mean, some people understand leverage to the takers, other people understand love givers. Right? Now I walked in, there's room with a bunch of givers. I'm going to protect them, I'm not going to let them give too much. I'm going to make sure it's a fair deal. I'm going to kind of mold them into the matcher.

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And we're there's a bunch of takers. I'll posture right back and I'll hold them to the natural

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event. If it's charitable situation. I'll allow myself to give a little more because I have

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you follow? Yeah, it's odd thing to the modality. Always. You took a while three out of 10 joke. I was just tossing out their

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great philosophical LeBron kind of combo. You know, you live a Purpose Driven Life. Can you tell us about that? It sounds like you're hyper focused in what you want to do personally and professionally. Is that fair to say? Yeah. So what is their how to for those listening? It from a if you have to go back to the episode before the first episode you came on. I have to go listen to that kind of hear your origin story because we kind of went a little bit through that. Was there a time where you were kind of rudderless and figured out how to get focused.

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Or is it is it innate? Is it is it nature nurture of Mitch, is it well

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One or more than the other? Is it? Did you have an epiphany moment where you go? I gotta turn this ship around? Or were you ever?

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Every moment that epiphany moment? Well then it wouldn't be an epiphany, right? If all there a lot of epiphany moments that it's not an epiphany, right? Oh my god

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for most people because they get stuck, right? I'm just today's growing today you start dying you just get to choose when you die, right in the Walking Dead show about zombies but it's frankly real today

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how many people do you see get triggered? I'm gonna shit on the planet? Yes, I thought you're gonna get people in the crosswalk on the phone, like walking like zombies. Let's let's let's let's talk about The Walking Dead, okay? Okay I have

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like people in our time, and they'll they'll get triggered because you're black or white, or rich or poor, or male or female or other don't get triggered by words you say, people got triggered about when you took a fucking shot or unknown chemicals or not, it will get triggered about a different movement every few seconds, because we're so conditioned. Because we've lost the ability.

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We've lost the ability to challenge our own God. Like Like, like, and I'm not talking about God and heaven like, you know, Jesus, I'm not that I'm talking about, like, whatever their religion is whatever they would kill or die for. Maybe it's the Democrat Party or the Republican Party or climate change or whatever the fucking is higher power. They're high higher power prevents them from being able to think if you can think you can question if you can question you can receive answers. You want a better life, you have to ask better questions. And every day I spend time asking questions, I asked so many fucking questions like, I love questions. Like I know, life is dance.

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And we're gonna go through it. And I look at like, like, say so. Obviously, you guys are business podcasts and people don't know about first party your podcasts. I don't know that I'm really a business guy. But, but the end of the day, like once you've succeeded in business, it gets boring. You're like, oh, shit, I can just build that. And that would be That's fucking boring, right? But then you start thinking, Okay, well, what's the point? Okay, like, and I'll come to you from a Christian point, right? Like, I'm gonna come as a Christian, like, some reviewers, maybe some may not be but like at least take it it works in every context. Yeah, just I'm gonna teach it the way I learned it right? In good book. God says, I know you before you were born. Like to me if I'm a Christian, I'm like, Okay, well, I was probably. You're a Christian you think we'll have it's perfect?

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Well, so why did I come here?

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When I say life is a gift, but this place is not fucking perfect. Why would you send me here? Did I do something wrong?

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What did I do? Like we live in a world where the leading cause of death for women of the last 40,000 years is childbirth? Well, that's probably we should probably stop having kids, right?

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We live in a world where the best moments in life are when people overcome adversity.

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It's weird. Okay, so that's another word for problems and, and then it says if you're a Christian, at least you know the right stuff. You move through life the right way, you get to go back home to where you started in the first place. So this was sort of like a vacation full of fucking problems. Why are we here?

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And I think that, you know, when you start diving into those stuff, when you get into some of that more esoteric stuff, you start really having fun, and you start really learning. So you get to ask better questions, you get to have better epiphanies. Like I literally think problems are gifts, I think your greatest strength and your greatest weakness come from the exact same day of your life, you find your biggest problem, you dive into that you learn more about yourself in that single moment than you ever thought possible.

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And more than that, like when you have kids, and you start seeing some situations they're having, they're gonna have problems too, and maybe help them get through it.

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As you age, as you grow, you're gonna have more problems, not less.

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So you start getting into some of this, like, Dude, you can have epiphanies every day of the week. Or you can get stuck in what some dipshit put on Instagram, or Facebook or YouTube or some other media or social media or whatever, like even podcast like I've seen some shit on podcasts, and I love watching smart people. And there's a lot of stupid people. There's like, Joe Biden, like, okay, yes, he's doing good. Right? So it was Trump ranking. So it was Bush, right? All of these guys. Like, we like liars. We'd like we'd like the shiny. They are all fucking lion. None of them are telling the facts. All of them have movements. Some do better jobs than others. But they're all narcissist canceled. But we fall in line with like this stuff. And it's and it's cool. And we get so stuck in these like little dopamine hits on our cell phones that we can't have epiphany frequently. And it blocks frankly, miracles in your life dude, like, you start having fun with everything you're doing and you start like being loving kind to everybody around you. You start, you know, having just

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absolute so

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certainty in competence. Like you build your fitness up, you get lucky and rich. You want to know the law of attraction. Have everything that everyone wants.

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It's really easy. You will find more relatives that you didn't even know you had.

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When you have more money than you ever thought possible, they come out of the woodwork. Okay, like that's the law of attraction. I have cousins that I didn't know we're fucking real. Show up. You're gonna borrow some money? No, no. Glad you're my cousin. No, it's looking weird. We need that 30 For 30

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broke. But having whenever that's why I feel I'm making all that money because I got a lot of West Virginia family.

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Everyone Everyone wants, you know, that's sort of the fame versus greatness. Right? Like, it's not about having it.

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It's about showing that it's possible.

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Like, like, what at the point of this life was the problems guys?

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What every time you challenged yourself and dove into a problem, you learn more about yourself you learn more about the world might learn more about God, you might learn more about all these different things. You can have a PIPA nice all the time. Unless you're ignorant or stupid. And then it's off limits to you because you've already got a religion that controls

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so frustrating when people don't have that mindset. They think they know everything. What a cogent amount of rants, we've gotten 30 minutes that you know, totally agree with you. And this, you know, we may be the number one business comedy podcasts in the world. Philosophical slash philosophical well, but we talked about business is there's philosophy but it's a lot of psychology too. And no, you can't ignore it both.

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In business, I'm sure you would cosign on that. One thing I would say to the to the people listening that, you know, need need to figure out how to get epiphanies. There's a Ron White quote, I just heard he's one of my favorite comics for 20 years got to open forum once. It was awesome. When you when things are going bad, slow down. When things are going really good, Slow the fuck down? And it sounds like you're you're in that second zone? Because it sounds like you're analyzing a lot. And what what are you going to do on this blue marble that you're only on here for so long? Let me yeah, let me give you a formula for epiphany like that stoicism because you're you're a bleeding Marcus Aurelius man. Yeah, man. So I'm gonna give you a formula for anyone advancing in any area of their life that they want, they all have the same formula. And it will blow their life up so radically,

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in such a divine and wonderful way. It will be uncomfortable, but comfort is where opportunity goes to die. So comfortable. You know, you want to stay in your comfort zone, we'll probably do other dumb shit too. Right? So but would you like that formula? Give us the Holy Grail formula to life? Holy Grail formula? All right. I want you to imagine a staircase with five steps. Okay? It is a five step formula. Anyone can do five things. Okay. Anyway,

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the first one, and it's the life formulas, simplest shit and will be what is being it's time. It's stillness.

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Right, and you get a gift here. I'll explain the gifts in a sec. Next one becoming.

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Oh, wow, what does that mean? Well, you can't just stay in stillness, you got to do some shit. You gotta move. Now take action. Right? When you move when you take action, there's another gift in this. And you get to move to the next step, believing

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guide, believing you overlooked the words belief that comes from the root words be love.

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Guide. There's another gift in this one as well. It's fun, it always gets biblical as well, which is radical isn't what I made this. I wasn't trying to reference it to the Bible, but it links in exact correlation.

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So being becoming believing, then believing you will be the next one belonging, you found a new plateau a new place to your stamp journey, at least this little journey, there's little goal set has ended.

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Because you're at belonging.

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But it ended and didn't end because it was only the fourth step. There's another step you can take which is blessing. And that's where you start giving back to others. Okay. So let me tell you the gifts that come in these two it's really interesting beings, students get the gift of time

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becoming, you're moving, you can measure move, you're gonna get talent, okay? And every step, by the way, being when he's studying during that time, let's go back to being you're studying your fucking problems. Dive into the biggest problem you haven't studied. Study it like you would your wife study it like you would your Bible, study it like you would your religion. And your question

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regarding take some action, it's all of it. So you get time, talent, believing testimony.

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While the best selling book on the planet probably testimonies and all sorts of stories we love stories facts tell stories sell right? Let's go to belonging. Treasure, man when you get up to Lessing, there's two row and it's so crazy. It's the only two gifts. Okay? You get truth and you get trust because once you have the truth and you have trust oh my gosh bro like you start changing lives

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I'm ever taking a nap break or something? You gotta go V to a absorb all this now this is very this is very in depth in definitely.

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From our last episode we had John this is definitely a lot more we're gonna have to go do shrooms in the woods like each other out. You know, by ourselves you know respectfully but we say like 20 feet away for safety. We don't talk to them but we can see each other make sure they're not catching themselves on fire stuff like that. Yeah, no look, tissues to one another. I'll be part of your congregation whenever the super church opens my friend.

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All right, man, stay the business guy but always be the free pig. I mean, you're still proselytizing the truth. So that's all good, man. Thanks for coming on. Appreciate it. And your your dollar per hour is a lot higher Nice. Ours so we really appreciate you coming on and dropping knowledge. Guys, thanks for having me. I hope it helps someone. See yeah, I'm great day guys. Bye.