#261: How To Mentally Prepare for Stressful Situations You Have Foisted On Yourself
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Wed, 9/23 · 4:29 PM35:17
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We're live.
Law Smith
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We're live. Okay. Doesn't matter. We're live it does. Yeah, yo. Form agreements. I'll be impeccable with my word.
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Yeah, I will not make.
Law Smith
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I'll always be on time. I forgot. One of
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those were the four talk about it later do that.
Law Smith
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sweat equity podcast and streaming show. We're doing this live on a Saturday night because you can't really party. Right now in the COVID era. I'm here slot Smith sitting next to me is Eric register. If you liked the show, hit us up on iTunes Apple podcast app, give us a five star review. rate and review. Subscribe, all that good stuff. Listen on Spotify laughable if you want, you can listen or watch on YouTube. Obviously Facebook, if you're watching live, we're gonna try to take some live questions if I can. We'll see my DVDs pretty strong. So we'll see. Right? So you won't. This episode is brought to you by grasshopper. grasshopper phone lines, try grasshopper comm forward slash White gets you 75 bucks off a business phone line. Don't have a Google Voice for your business number. Don't have your personal cell phone for your your business, your side hustle, whatever you're trying to do that brand you're working on after hours, whatever it is. Don't do it. Don't do it. You need a real business phone line just it's cheaper than getting it from your phone carrier or found out. It's a scalable system. So if you need to add phone lines to the app, you can do that. I like to talk to people through my desktop through the grasshopper desktop app. Yeah, I'm not only gonna promote it, how many user try grasshopper.com forward slash sweat is the only way you can get $75 off an annual plan and hook the show up. That's our headline sponsor. for this episode. I'm going to run through a feature once ExpressVPN tracks best vpn.com forward slash sweat gets you three months free off an annual plan. Dr. roen.com forward slash swett Rome is the fanciest a fancy kind of workout gear. Try road calm.
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we're ready to go. Baby All right. What about mice?
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Speaker 1
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Whoo, man. Yeah, I found it. I'm sharing this as it's live so our network of people can see it which people love to watch other people do is play on their phones.
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Speaker 2
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Well, look how you framed up to be embarrassed of yourself.
Law Smith
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I know I got hip problems I'm moving around. You know I'm making excuses that kind of thing. Know what you want to do?
Law Smith
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The excuses all the time. I'm gonna start a watch party. So So
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thanks for the rewind for that. Wow.
Law Smith
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I don't know. I just know that more people watch the show. Listen to the show. If there's It's live. It's there's a watch party on Facebook. We do need you know, we do need to Diddle Diddle play right. We do need to deal with restream.io so it can just swipe spit out to everything's Lou? Like Lou Lou needs to take it easy.
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No, but I like how you always have these assignments for me.
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No, we need to just get on we messed with it before we didn't write retreat we got Yeah, we did.
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I did. You didn't gave up?
Law Smith
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Yeah. Okay. It's hard. It got better. I heard internet like a gay kid in high school gets better. You're dressed up. Why are you so fancy today?
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I don't know what you want to guess.
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Speaker 2
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You're gonna I just got back from a bartending gig. Oh, yeah, no.
Law Smith
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I was gonna say that's,
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like, kinda looks like that. I'll give me a towel.
Law Smith
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I was gonna say You look like a magician's assistant. Maybe you want to chop me in half? Maybe maybe you had a lesbian magician that, you know, switch it up, or switch the gender roles. Wow. Yeah. I feel like you need that kind of strength. That kind of forms thing to that is true. There's a lot I don't CarPlay Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, I can't move my fingers fast and stuff like that.
Law Smith
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Yeah, yeah. I feel like that. They got that dad strength a lot of magicians,
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Speaker 2
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right? It's it's that force. It's not that there's no there's no nuance,
Law Smith
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a lot of dexterity, but also a lot of power binding zero dexterity
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Speaker 2
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really power? Oh, no, I'm saying both. Okay, I'm saying the best of both worlds. Brad Pitt baby. You know, I mean, you can't just you know, it's not Superman. You can't just take all the superpowers and have some weaknesses. To say yeah,
Law Smith
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Superman is the weakest of all superheroes. Stupid. Like, who cares? What are your thoughts call in? Okay,
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yeah, I'm in this shit now.
Law Smith
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No, man. We're, we're doing it live. And I think you're getting nervous about it. And there's nothing to be nervous about. What's going on in your world? What are you working on? Anything? Anything fun? getting a divorce? Oh. Do you have drops? Nothing? I thought you were aware. That's why I thought you were wearing a suit. But I didn't want to say I have court today. I know. But I mean, just to feel like I can feel good. A guy could get dressed up and feel good. Doesn't want to feel fancy. Sometimes you want to dance in the mirror by yourself. You know, dance like no one's looking. I know.
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I dance like somebody's looking all the time, baby.
Law Smith
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So wait, how is all that going? goes? Good, go good. That's just
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Speaker 2
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a big part of what's going on with me. But you know, we talk business.
Law Smith
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Yeah, I mean, I just want to do some business stuff. This is a business podcast, but we always talk about the work life balance is always it's always there. Regardless, if you're trying to do your own business entrepreneurial esque, or you're trying to do you know, move up professionally. You're always going to have to deal with that kind of work life balance outlook. I there's some dark years recently where I let that shit interfere with my life very dark. And because I've internalized
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Speaker 2
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too much get burnt cloaks. Everywhere you went? Yes. Just like hovered even a walk. He's kind of hovered into a room,
Law Smith
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you're gonna see that kind of? You're gonna see that kind of company more. Nice. Look. I don't have the I don't have the I don't have the prices right. Losing rule. Are you ready? How about this? You're doing something tomorrow, you haven't done stand up in five years? You haven't done an open mic. I'm gonna do it with you.
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You know, at the same time, we'll be separate. It won't be like a
Law Smith
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we're not the same. Our brother. Yeah. But I'm saying like, you're you are doing something that you don't really need to do. Yeah, something uncomfortable. We talked about this on the last episode, if anybody wants to go back, and listen, but you're doing something uncomfortable. Just stand up. Some people like to say that. I don't know how you can do that. It's amazing. Even in an open mic. Yeah. The old saying is most people rather be there. They're more scared of what Seinfeld had a better way of saying it. But you're never more scared to give the eulogy to be in the coffin.
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Speaker 2
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Right? I think he said you'd rather be in the coffin than giving you know. Yeah, yeah. That's why you're up there with Jerry Seinfeld. Yeah. Anyways, yeah. I mean,
Law Smith
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some people I had torturing yourself. I do have extra time right now.
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And it's one of those things that
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Speaker 2
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at this point in my life, I'm not, I don't get to work out like, I'm really not worked up about it. It's like, like I said, the last time it's like, I've been there. You know what, tell me this. Do you know what the mat the deal with the masks is gonna be? Like? Well, you have to wear masks. No, no, no. No, you can bring mass
Law Smith
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I think in the audience. I think I think businesses kind of make everybody now I look if even if it wasn't like mandated by your state or city. I think a lot a lot of businesses that are doing anything where they're having people indoors. I think they're asking people to mask up or leave. And look, it's I don't know how that works with drinking. Honestly, I know for rest we were just talking to some guys outside and I was hearing about poker and how that works. I don't really understand. I don't know. It sounds like they have like Plex Glass around the table but you have the urinal partition style of Plexiglas between all nine people around the table at restaurants will do the thing you got to wear the master table and then it's no limits from there and why would a comedy club be any different? You realize how much of your face you use
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that but I'm saying I can't This is the moneymaker baby
Law Smith
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well there used to be like a theory like don't have a beard as a stand up because you you lose part of your facial like just expression with it. I was like an old school kind of way of doing it, you know? Or, you know, kind of theory, I guess, or guidelines can take away I guess, but I mean, Zach Galifianakis one of the funniest stand ups I've ever seen. Yeah. You know,
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Speaker 2
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but then in the second half of his first specially did Seth Galifianakis with just the moustache, shave it and he say, Yeah, well, that's fun where they had Brian Unger interviewing him. And he couldn't keep it together as he was like, they just let it in. Yeah, the in the special where he's cracking up. Is that
Law Smith
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the purple onion? Oh, yeah. That's a great special. It's a weird. My favorite part is when he goes, who's your favorite comic? He's in San Francisco. The guy goes morphs all these like more solid, the political comedian from the 60s. That's god damn it. That's a great special check it out. You don't know more songs. I don't know. He's one of the one of those guys you should know. But. But like, if you watch your
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own life, people at home Got that?
Law Smith
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You know, whatever. Um, what else is going on? Are you are you nervous? You're not nervous. So you're, you're doing something that's not comfortable.
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Speaker 2
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I it's, I definitely could be more prepared. But at the same time, I also have convinced myself I'm the type of person I don't like, I'll probably walk out of the room. I don't like really? No, you think it's gonna be that painful?
Law Smith
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No, no, I don't want I try not to watch anybody stuff just because my you know, my memory so terrible.
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You're afraid you're gonna feel it?
Law Smith
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I do. I definitely get afraid that I'm gonna accidentally lift something that's like, the worst thing and stand up. So I don't know, I I post I get I want to go back on stage or get on stage. If you know, I'm waiting to get on. It's like, you get bought. I'm not good at sitting. I can't like I definitely don't want to stand up a lot anymore. Because of that. Like, I know, it's kind of known yourself. Right? Like, I know what I don't know. And I know, like, I know, have a shitty memory. And over time, you're riffin or we're, you know, we're talking shit, you know? with a bunch of guys. And you're you're making jokes and like, did I come up with that? I think I did. But I don't even want a question.
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Speaker 2
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Yeah. Okay. But I mean, that's, you know, you're talking I want you to stop having conversations with friends.
Law Smith
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We can No, no, no, it's the other thing I can disguise. I can't be funny right now. I can watch. I don't want to know, I don't want any jokes. I can not watch stand up. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, and I'm rarely the funniest in a group of my guy friends anyway. I know. Yeah. I'm very drawn.
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straight guy. Yeah.
Law Smith
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No, I'm just up my own ass a lot of the time, right? Which is quite inquisitive about picking at it. I don't know. This is pretty good ass. Brazilian women. Stop me in the street and ask how do you get that is not what I'm talking about. They're like, Damn, you got it? I'm talking. Well, I mean, it does things do get lost in the black hole there. So I don't know when the crevice we're talking about. How do you kind of return to off Mike right before we started outside about how do you the cobblers children has no shoes dilemma. And you know, I won't I won't bring in the exact reference we were talking about outside but on your patio.
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Speaker 2
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What the person? Because you've done a labadie friend of the program. Well, we can't sit on my patio right now. We're live but he's probably watching it right now. Yes, person he is I can second. So we're gonna talk all kinds of misinformation. Sorry, your business. Sorry,
Law Smith
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I didn't mean to. But we were talking about like, you know, it's really hard to promote yourself and not feel, I this is how I feel, not feel douchey
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for sure.
Law Smith
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You're a one man show. For a business or a brand that you're trying to push. It's really hard to I think you just have to do it's like stop doing stand up. You just have to do it. Get over it and just take your take your licks on whatever happens.
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Speaker 2
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It's Yeah, it's one of those things. It's like anything like exercising, you just have your body start doing it. Just have your hands start going to the keyboard and start doing the shit and have that go and like just starting is always the hardest part right? And just get in some sort of figure out a way to trick yourself into just getting into it because once you get into it, then your your mindset that is stopping you from doing it in the first place where it's like, oh, now it's gonna be I don't want to know that I'm into it. Don't want to stop doing it, and just knock it out.
Law Smith
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Yeah. And I also think like saying stuff out loud sometimes and going like, why am I? Why am I worried about pushing this out there? Like, yeah, sometimes you're not even really, really thinking analytically or like, like yourself, I find it. I don't know, for me it works sometimes. But I'll, I might sound like a crazy person if someone saw me talking to myself, but like, I'll try to do that, because I'll be like, why? Wait a minute, because I'll catch myself overthinking and just going, Okay, I'll get to that. I'll do it. I won't do it. Oh, yeah. And then time runs out of the day. Just don't do it. And it's like, sometimes I'll catch myself and go, Why? Why don't just do right now? Well, you find that
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Speaker 2
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literally the time you're spent writing talk, thinking about it is the time it would take to do whatever stupid thing it is that you're not doing. Like, realistically, it was, we might be talking about an Instagram Facebook post, where it's like, come up with the wording. Get your hashtags, get all your mentions scraped, and put it out.
Law Smith
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Right? Or is that even? Like, what don't if it? If it's like, I don't I don't know if I'll get the right hashtags. Well, that's where a lot of people stop.
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Speaker 2
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Yeah, exactly. It's just like, well, what is gonna make you feel good about putting it if you do 20 at a time and you have 20 Ready to go? Is that gonna make you want to put that first one out? Right? Because some people it's that's how they want to do it. I want to have 20 good to go. Because I'm gonna fix I don't want to start. And then it just goes awakes, only do one.
Law Smith
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Sometimes that's like an that can.
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I can mess with you. But
Law Smith
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sometimes putting it out there, right? Like you're doing stand up, right, tomorrow night. And you have it on the calendar. Now you have to do it.
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Yeah. And I definitely it's
Law Smith
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like, it's like I was looking for like, for pre COVID. I was like, maybe there's a like a 10 cash and run or something, you know, like, just to have a reason to do right? Because it's hard to just make do maintenance all the time. Yeah, if you're working out and stuff, I used to do that, like
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Speaker 2
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10 years ago, I period, I just signed up for five K's 15 K. Try just to be like, that's my goal. So I'm going to be doing you know, I'm working towards that. And it's like, oh, my not, you know, if you need something, it's good to have something to work towards.
Law Smith
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But sometimes it's just, let's say in this case, and john paul said, just knock it out. Sounds easy. With the the crying laughing emoji. Yeah. What's it called? You know, sometimes, if you just put it out there for that one post, then you're like, Fuck, now I got it. Now I have to do it.
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Speaker 2
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Right. Because that's, you know, accountability right there.
Law Smith
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But I mean, I don't know that. It's one of those things where I don't know why I have the issue of promoting I haven't I've been shitting the bed promoting this podcast, like I'm supposed to, as far as doing our marketing. So this may be in a vacuum. We may be doing it live and there might be like five people watching. But I don't know, because it's a I don't know what I, I I've got something fucked up. We're like, even no matter how tired I was, like, at the end of the night, I could just kind of as I was going to sleep, I could still like, do this mindless kind of setup, promotion stuff. And now I've lost that muscle for some reason. I don't know what the habit
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Speaker 2
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thing for sure. Yeah, it's easy to let those habits go away. You know, it's like, oh, well, I'm used to doing that all the time. So I don't know. I got it. I'll catch up to it. But yes, like you do that once and then that letting go of the habits becomes a thing. Well, something I've been dealing with, like just it's easy for me right now to just let things kind of go to the wayside just in terms of every day, day to day things operations and whatnot.
Law Smith
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Like, like,
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Speaker 2
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just like routine things, you know, shave your shaving grundle daily twice a day sometimes depends. Yep. You know, depends on air pressure, whatnot, but it's, it's hard to like, come back from letting go of the habits. I think like we're it's something you had at one point, and then you let it go. That's it's like, losing weight, gaining it back and trying to lose the weight again. Harder, right. A lot of extra skin. Yeah, sure.
Law Smith
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Shout out to Eddie Maloof, who gave us some nice words. Wow, that's the guy listen to the podcast and got a hold of both of us. Yeah, I gotta schedule him. Creative waves are real according to our sometimes producer john paul. Will bottle. That's how you say his last name, right? Yeah. I get that too. But that can be an excuse that can be creative. Creative waves can be you can use that as a way to not create, I guess is kind of how I was trying to think about it. It's like, you go well, I need to I need to really do whatever are you trying to do right or or shoot something or, you know, sit down and actually do something that art dude, your painter? I mean, like putting pussy on a pedestal?
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Speaker 2
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What's that now? You're a virgin? Like, you can't you can't elevate it to perfection have to have it perfect every time. Because more often than not quantity is where it's like things get forgotten. You're not going to have the most epic Instagram Facebook post of all time. I'm going to be honest.
Law Smith
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Let's see on a pedestal always sounds nice. Yeah, because it always is like, I'm now I can see everything right. I've always thought the visual of that in my head is always been like that sounds That's not the thing.
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Just because you don't have the anatomy is doesn't
Law Smith
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know but that's what I just picture a flat lady on like on. We're sure. In a museum. Okay, great.
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Speaker 2
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That's about a pet a saying like, you can't elevate Facebook posts too high. Just put them out.
Law Smith
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You can't turn a ho into a hotel. That's what you're saying. Right?
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can't turn a ho into a housewife.
Law Smith
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Oh, yeah, that's right. That's what I always mess that up.
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Just that's pragmatic.
Law Smith
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But I'm saying like, I'm just saying, just think of that. I want you to close your eyes. Just think of that visual. You're going through a museum of vaginas. Alright. And you're like, Whoa, this is kind of great. You got the little headphones on that they give you and it's like, this vagina. They're rated by this hairy vagina. Yeah. I want to go to that museum.
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Sure. Yeah.
Law Smith
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Yeah, so uh, before you you do stroke out you're out there.
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Speaker 2
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Just thinking about the pussy museum. And there's nothing there.
Law Smith
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lot lot of plexiglass can't touch. For sure. That's that's, there's like dogs. Yeah, yeah. Um, what if you did what if you mix that with Salvador Dali museum? Oh, no. Did you do Yeah, dude. You okay, gross. All right. So, look ahead. It's Saturday night. Yikes. It's a little silly, silly goose time. One thing I wanted to bring up, I got asked a question. I got hit up by a freshman in college now. And then a guy going into freshman and then a guy going into so I guess a freshman going into sophomore year, and a senior in high school going into freshman year I got these
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What the hell is going on in your social? Why are you talking to these people?
Law Smith
22:38
It's because I taught that class at USF A while back.
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Well, how do you hook up with a high schooler?
Law Smith
22:43
No one that one was a college. Cut this slide. There's my new Craigslist friend. Look. We Greco Roman wrestle in the alley and we just there my new we just look. It's not gay. It's actually whoever's the guest is the little the most straight.
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I wasn't picturing a dude. Okay.
Law Smith
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Well, what am I gonna Greco Roman wrestle women? I don't? I don't think so. I don't know. Why. I mean, like their bodies. Just
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keep talking about
Law Smith
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it. Good. So that's how I got COVID. Really? But yeah,
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what else?
Law Smith
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So I got hit up. Did you come in? One was through like, some Alumni Association, man, it doesn't matter. I look, I'm such a whore to answer stuff for the podcast, because I'd go, Hey, when we run out of shit to talk about, sometimes this might come in handy.
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Oh, that's what's happening right now.
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I get it.
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Speaker 2
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So next time, I won't make fun of you and your high school friends. Well, my bad
Law Smith
23:42
look, we're starting a boy band. It's not the band's gonna make it. So my thing is they both are asking how do you get in? How do you get into the professional market at that age? And it's such a broad question what they're asking me about marketing pacifically like Pacific Ocean. They're asking me how does one get in the marketing world as as a grunt right now, when you're, you know, an underclassmen that it doesn't seem like I'm sure there's a lot of fear going on with everything. Because college students are just not there. They're zooming. If they're if they're doing college at all. I mean, it seems I'd be fucking pissed if I if I was paying for college and not being able to go
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Speaker 2
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out. Even before this though. We're paying $300 for a textbook and all the bullshit. Yeah,
Law Smith
24:31
that's fucking all of it before
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Speaker 2
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it was criminal. Now it's just everybody's reading. So this is so
Law Smith
24:38
dumb for me the anxiety of like getting the correct textbook, like I didn't care about I mean, but like too much. They would be like, if you don't have it, you're not gonna even pass the class and you're like, cool. Well, you're like I gotta find like a fucking library speakeasy to buy this out of what the fuck right? This is before Chegg was a thing. Yeah. Before like Amazon, people. Some shit on their own PDFs.
25:01
Yeah heard of it.
Law Smith
25:02
Yeah. So that'll that that shit. I don't understand it. I think it's a conspiracy. Yeah, yeah. McGraw Hill. I'm coming out for you. Yeah, pull that out my ass.
25:14
No, that's a good poll.
Law Smith
25:16
Yeah. a publisher poll. The public, there is something fucked up about that. Now they think about it. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they come up with another edition every year. Eliminate commas.
25:27
Yeah. And then another guy on the end is not real. I don't know
Law Smith
25:30
that I'm gonna buy it was like to 24th edition or something crazy as I'm gonna buy the 23rd I might be a page or two. I'll figure it out. But it feels class. It was like $125 difference, dude. And then it was the same information just different pages set up. Right. But it was like, you definitely forget that I did that fucked me up the whole year. Not cool. It was math. So it was fine. I fucking crushed
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Speaker 2
25:53
that's all gone away. Yeah. Oh, do colleges and universities in general.
Law Smith
25:57
This this is this calculus to that advanced calculus that ace. I don't know how to do any of that anymore. You aced it. Dude, I I was such a C plus student but all math classes I crashed because they're just puzzles to me. Seriously, I'm a poor student math. What? All the time. What? grammar? Not my strong suit. Anything. Language Arts English for? Yeah. God dammit. It would take me forever. That's why like I thought
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this like a puzzle to me.
Law Smith
26:28
Math. I see. Everything's puzzles. Really. I see business as a puzzle. I see. Jokes as a puzzle. And yeah, they I mean, they are in a way they're unsolvable in a way too, because I never done joke. Jokes have a weird? They have a weird life to them. Like, if you've seen that. What's the wine movie with the pig vomit? Paul Giamatti? Yeah, sideways. Christ, you know, they talk about wine and how it has a life in it has its apex, like, you know, wine that's 30 years old. This kind of wine it hits its sweet spot. Jokes have a timeline like that to like, you'll you'll tell them and you can try to tell them for 10 years and for whatever reason, you could tell it the exact same way. And it just doesn't work. Zika stuff doesn't hit like it used to know. My Snuggie bit fucking eats it. Yeah.
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It's bullshit.
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Speaker 2
27:25
But stop dedicating all your energy to the viruses.
27:29
Well, I mean, starting
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now.
Law Smith
27:33
Look at having COVID was I keep telling people I had herpes. It was like I got a call everybody I've ever heard in the last couple months. Can we call me over and over again?
27:44
I get it.
Law Smith
27:45
Well, look, you know, you've tagged in for a Greco Roman wrestling
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Speaker 2
27:48
in the alley but I have reinfecting myself an idiot.
Law Smith
27:51
So how do you? How does one right now that's your 19. Right. And you're trying to figure out Wow, okay, a path you can it's hard to get a job right? Like just, I was like, I wanted to be like, look normal times I tell you go get a bartending job or go be a barback to be a bartender. Yeah. That was the best thing I did in college. Yes. Yeah. Get a cool vest like Eric owl.
28:16
Yeah, what kind of genuine?
Law Smith
28:18
No, but I mean, go go work there. Because when it was like slow nights, like a Tuesday, it was just fun. You just like, there's not a lot of people there. You can bartend and kind of hang out.
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Yeah, I never did it.
Law Smith
28:28
I loved it. And it was like, I don't know. I
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like the gossip lady.
Law Smith
28:33
That's, I like to. I like to gab like gals at brunch that's died out. That's the white con me. Yeah. But I'm saying like, What what? What are you telling? It was just like, Look, it's just like anything? You know the answer to that. It's just like, people want to ask you how to what, what's the best diet? Or like, what's the best nutrition plan? You're like, you know? Well, you don't know. But you know, you need to kind of figure it out. Give yourself some options.
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But give yourself a couple hours in a sense and
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sort of narrow it down. Like
Law Smith
29:05
here's what I said develop a skill. Yes, start juggling you. You can online you can, you can literally take an assessment test on LinkedIn to and humble brag that as soon as you finish it. I'm starting to bow those down. Because I guess they're important now. So like you can take you can teachers. Look, we taught ourselves a lot of shit via YouTube. You have to cite if you had to sift through a bunch of shit. But I mean, like you. It's one of those things where you find things that work for you and don't like that's how I learned a lot of Facebook advertising through that. Yeah. And now I can do Instagram now. And then you figure out social media ads there with Facebook ads. Then I go, Oh, I know how Pinterest ads work without even doing it. You just get the concept.
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Speaker 2
29:52
Yeah, it is tough, though, to direct somebody and say it. I mean, I would say start with Google stuff. Yep, Google. It's more murky around, you know, it's it's the Colossus of it all and start there, because that's all free. And they'll give you a little certificate and all that and like
Law Smith
30:10
we're HubSpot, do that training because there's always they always need HubSpot certified people.
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Speaker 2
30:15
Yeah. I mean, the basic idea, it's all kind of the same idea. They all sort of operate the same way. Then terms of the the boring marketing, and then majors and stuff like that, how it goes,
Law Smith
30:28
but then then make your own, then put your foot in the door with people, Hey, can I can I do your ads? Can I run campaigns for you? You know, if someone you know, someone to get just started, get your foot in the door, see the case study, you build a case study. Don't do that for too long. Don't do it for too long. But do it? Do it go, Hey, I'm going to do it for I know, I know this. I have a family friend that has a law firm, they are going to try to do with the low budget and just tell them hey, I'm trying to work this out too. But it seems like you need that as well. And considered like an internship.
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Speaker 2
31:03
It's not really somebody who's willing to toss 100 bucks at it and be okay with whatever the results are as bad as they get,
Law Smith
31:10
here's what you're not going to find you're not going to find people reaching out to you. Yes, if you want to wait around for shit to happen to you, it's not going to happen. So the other thing I said is start harvesting, harvesting this that that's that douchey business he kind of term for double down on your relationship networking, but but it is true. Like, you know, start if you're 19 or whatever, keep in touch with everybody that was in your high school class, you never know. Sure. Yeah. I mean, we have a millionaire in our, in our class in high school. He was millionaire buddies. 16. And he's still just went to school with us. Okay, let's get an IT company. I think he's doing pretty well. Okay, last I checked good for him. I think he made his like 17th app or something as like a private equity firm. But yeah, one of those things were opportunity might be out there, if you just reach out what I've been doing in the COVID area just to keep my sanity to is I've tried to call people randomly haven't talked to in a while. Couple, you're in the car, or I go for a walk for 30 minutes an hour, and just go who haven't talked to in a minute and just
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Speaker 2
32:19
trying to call them It's rare to have somebody you know, who doesn't know somebody who might need digital marketing services,
Law Smith
32:27
in some capacity, if you want to look at it from a douchey perspective, making those calls for marketing yourself. Make I'm saying I'm not your angle, I'm saying my if you want to look at if you want to look at it from the Business Network, or business development perspective, on a douchey kind of way, your top of mind. Right. Yeah, that's a lot of That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot of, I don't know, that's a lot of local business marketing. That's a lot of startup marketing. That's a lot of small business marketing, you're gonna a lot of businesses in the beginning, they're going to get there, they're getting more work because of the work they've done. Right? If you're professional service
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roles and whatnot,
Law Smith
33:10
right? If you're decent, you're probably good work begets Good work. Right? You'll get more clients he is, but in a professional service instance, I'm not talking about like, you know, if your manufacturing price is a whole other kind of issue. Yeah, same with e commerce. If you have your own product, that's a little tougher, but I'm saying
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Speaker 2
33:30
and nobody's selling manufactured goods anymore.
Law Smith
33:33
Most people trying to do their own side hustle around their business, a lot of professional services, a lot of them don't have a product nowadays, it's very intangible. So it's like, what what do you have as an asset, and that is the relationships you're setting up. This podcast is great, because we go out of our way to random, randomly talk to you know, CEOs that are trying to get back on to come back on and just it's been four years since a doctor of some some you know,
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yeah, totally. We'll talk about that. Yeah, CEO. Sounds important. Uh huh.
Law Smith
34:07
Fran Biederman, gross holler. She's CEO of advantages. dotnet if you don't look that up, but right. Great story. I got to interview her a long time ago, just on a whim a PR PR company found us founder podcast. This might be pre Eric.
34:25
Right, but, but I don't remember
Law Smith
34:28
that. That one PR company set me up with all seven of their CEOs that they had under their wing. Wow. It was like, Oh, great. This is cool. Yeah. And they're all female too, which is good, because I want more because you're thinking, yeah, I want Yeah, well, I put it on a pedestal so it'd be tough callback. That's what I'm talking about. What Alright, this is a sloppy episode, but we did it. We got through it. Oh, we're done.
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Okay, that was fun.
