#255: How To Fail Upwards in Radio w/ Bubba The Love Sponge's Anna Hummel
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Law Smith
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Law Smith
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Speaker 2
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Now it's without context. So you can't really go from here, right?
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No, that's okay. We're not gonna relive the moment it's gone. But
Law Smith
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let's try it again. Come on from the top guys. Are we going now? Yeah. Okay. Okay.
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I didn't prepare anything at all just letting you know. That's kind of our gimmick.
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You're the guy. Okay.
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All gimmick is no plan, then I'm all about that.
Law Smith
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Yeah. You're the guest. Just let us you know, just just let us laugh.
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Okay,
Law Smith
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so we were just looking at the news saw Baba, your new your new team over the lunch.
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That was my last job if you want to talk.
Law Smith
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Let's get into it. What happened? What happened? Now? Did you
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actually say Ana's name and credentials?
Law Smith
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Will? Read. We'll all wrote in there. Okay. I'm a professional. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I went on the show. She's talking about that. She got fired from a bunch of times.
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Speaker 3
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Yeah, and then not the last four years though.
Law Smith
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Yeah. Johnny be show.
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Yeah, but now when I was on the show, no, no, no, no, no.
Law Smith
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But I did want to come on and talk about how bad of a Bumble date we had. Oh, yeah, I would have been
Law Smith
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the Superbowl whatever that shitty Jimmy Buffet bar is. And a gay dude hit on me while I was waiting for you. And I was like, This is bad sign.
4:23
That isn't that bad.
Law Smith
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And he was our ups guy at our office at the time. He's like, I know that guy. Fuck. Yeah, he's gay. Not not the big guy that retired the his backup his backup QB
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either one of them is gay.
Law Smith
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Yeah. Hmm.
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Speaker 3
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What can I was very impressed that you knew feel Vaughn. That was that was cool.
Law Smith
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So your favorite comedians already you're like you dropped through finals? Like let's call him right now. He's
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Speaker 3
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not my favorite. But at the time, I was like really getting into it. What What is this podcast called this week? Last Week Tonight. This is this last weekend, something like that. In the kingdom. Yeah. And I was really getting into it and I Really had it like appreciated the the brilliance and the uniqueness of Theo von yet and so I was like I was going like hard, like down the rabbit hole. And he's just unlike anybody else out there like he's just his own fucking stick. Well,
Law Smith
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you'll be happy to know you got me in a big Jay oakerson kick and I've been listening Oh yeah. Illegal feeds on YouTube.
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Speaker 2
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Oh yeah. So you had a Bumble day and then busted out that you knew Theo von and then said let's call him
Law Smith
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back. I texted him. Yeah, yo, yeah, still
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with that back and I was I was super impressed with that. That was that was pretty fun. And then it went
Law Smith
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downhill though. She looked down at my legs. Power.
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Speaker 2
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Okay, now he's already talking about his own ass. Already. We went on a second. Talking about your ass. You did go on a second date. Okay, sorry.
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Speaker 3
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We did go on a second date. I just felt like, I mean, you were I think you're still technically married. Right? Like,
Law Smith
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technically, but yeah, well, this was the agreement. a half
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ago, this was a year and a half ago. So
Law Smith
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you might say you're right. No, my good. Probably your
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ad wasn't good.
Law Smith
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The top one the high one.
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Speaker 3
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Yeah. And I could I could I could sense that it wasn't in the right place. You were Dan want
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Speaker 2
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to know part of that. Your damage? I was just I could sense that you were like all fucked up. So like, Yeah, I would do again.
Law Smith
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Want to do with like me just blathering on about bullshit, which is unfair to her cuz it was like, do you want to know, I'll tell you and then just go
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Speaker 3
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out of like courtesy, you know, but don't give too much. And I'd like didn't know you like it was
Law Smith
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so weird. So I thought that it mistakenly went went on the persona of, Oh, I can just talk to her very upfront. And that was not you still can't do that turns out completely wrong. No, we're both we both kind of speaker mine. Well, it's
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Speaker 3
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not about like speaking. I think that there just is like certain, like, periods when?
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Yeah, like
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Speaker 2
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so what about certain things you don't really want to hear about?
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Speaker 3
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Like, an hour? Oh, like, if I would ask you like a question and then you give me an honest answer. Like that's one thing but
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it was just what you were lying the hell
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Speaker 3
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that you were not okay. Yeah, and I can't I'm not here to I'm not like a fixer upper kind of girl. I know. Some girls are like that. They're like fixing guys. I don't like fixing broken needs to get fixed before you know
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Speaker 2
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that's a whole psychological issue. Yeah, I like to fix a broken guys. That's fine.
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Speaker 3
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No, that's not my that's not my Oh, you know, I have other issues. But like that's not one of them.
Law Smith
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So well, I'm great Now.
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Speaker 2
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Now. Look at him now. Look at me. You could tell he's great. Now you fucking killing it.
Law Smith
8:07
Well, no, I I got a hold of you once he got fired just because I was curious at how you're doing. But be. You know, I always like hearing radio drama. I think it's interesting for some reason, because it's such an archaic.
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Speaker 3
8:19
For sure. I remember when I thought that. Here's an example of one of my low self esteem is when he first called me I'm like, is this a butt dial?
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I was like,
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Is that weird? bottom of the barrel? Yeah. Awesome. It's really calling me Jesus. Oh, sorry.
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Speaker 3
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I'm and um, I just I just did my name isn't a sometimes it's like, I'm trying to call my friend Andrea. Yeah, I get that a lot. So. But yeah, so I got fired from my last job. June 10. will be the day that will live in infamy. For some tweets. Oh, that's the middle place tweets. People really aren't in the mood to laugh these days, I suppose. And
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can you read them?
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Yeah, I'd be happy to Yes.
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Good.
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Yeah, look, get your let's get your voice out though. It was actually
Law Smith
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I'm gonna let you grade these. Okay.
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Speaker 2
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Okay. I didn't really do any research on these tweets. They're not like horribly No.
Law Smith
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Yeah, they were like Pro. Yes. Sheer like starting
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Speaker 3
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here. They're not racist. They're really surreal. Oh, racial. But strike.
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Yeah, it would be the way people say. Yeah, yeah. Okay, hold on.
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Speaker 3
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Okay, so there's a little bit of backstory here. Are you familiar with Ben and Jerry's the ice cream brand?
Law Smith
9:55
Yes. Okay, cool.
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Speaker 3
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Ferris decided that They were going to dismantle white supremacy, as we can see who we all look to. I know that like that
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hero, Ben and Jerry's gonna do about this
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Speaker 3
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dismantle white supremacy, which I thought was hilarious because I'm like, you sell ice cream. So what do you have in the business of dismantling white supremacy? Which I don't even I mean, you know, depends. Yes, but I mean, I don't really think that's the thing in this country, but Okay, that's fine. Um, it says Ben and Jerry's, and they say here the murder of George Floyd, this is June 2. So this is one week after George Floyd was murdered, okay. The murder of George Floyd was result of inhumane police brutality that is perpetuated by a culture of white supremacy and they post that Okay, and then I go, I demand and I quote, tweeted it. This is really a throwaway one. Um, I demand you put out a new flavor dismantling white supremacy, perhaps, quote, kill whitey fuck you please pigs, a vanilla free milk ice cream with chocolate chips, caramel swirl brownie bites and hidden cinnamon. Maybe it was the hint of cinnamon? I don't know. So that was tweet one. So there are two tweets mad the second one well, the second one is much worse. This
Law Smith
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is really the one Okay, all right. This is the one I didn't like.
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Speaker 3
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This is this is now on July June 3. Okay. Again, probably about like, what eight days after George Lowe was killed off i did i sent this to a friend because it's not funny, but it's like interesting. autopsy report confirms droid that George Boyd had Coronavirus. So I tweeted that I'm like if they try to pin this as an Coronavirus, death, I'm going to lose myself suggesting that they're they're pinning a lot of deaths as Corona when they're not thrown up, blah, blah, blah. So it's like, how insane would it be if a guy had like his knee on his neck for 10 minutes? And they're like, Oh, we got a coronavirus. You know, that would be insane. So I posted that with the link. And then that was really what that
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that's not that bad.
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Good, like have your beer.
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We were talking about it
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Speaker 3
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10 minutes before that. But here's the thing, though, is that it was an inside job because I put those things on Twitter. And it got it elicited zero response from any listeners or anybody on Twitter. It was someone internally that complained. I know who it is. I'm like, 98% sure I know exactly who it is. Um, but you know, I guess there's no proof and my boss wouldn't tell me who it was, you know, I fucking know who it is. And
Law Smith
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so it's like high school drama, right? Like, no, but yeah, it was rarely, especially no know that. That tweet was such a one out of 10 that Twitter didn't rank it well enough for anybody to see it.
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Speaker 3
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Yeah, it was like such a throwaway tweets, but
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yeah, there was way worse stuff on Twitter that day.
Law Smith
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Yeah. So that's what I like that she's deducing that is definitely high school drama and radio stations are all high school drama of like adults. They're just like, the basically children. Yeah,
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Speaker 2
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with the whole job that they're just, you know, creating shit out of thin air cuz?
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Speaker 3
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Well, there's a lot of egos and radio and there's really, especially Can I say where I work like
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okay, yeah, so I had the bone that
Law Smith
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there's a lot of for those outside the area to FM station, the most popular FM station talk radio, we have people ever we have people outside of the area, I gotta set the table. It really
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Speaker 2
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is the only FM like talk in the morning show that
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Speaker 3
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it really is unique format on because there are very few I mean, maybe like five in the country. That's quote, that's all talk radio all day long. And nothing is like syndicated so it's not like we're getting a show from you know, Pittsburgh or something like that. It's all in house. And so you got a lot of hurt like most people on the payroll like, say 97 x, which is one of our sister stations, we got like three people on the bone there were like 20 personalities. So there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen. There's a lot of egos, there's a lot of people I mean, there's a few people at the top making money and then everybody else is just making shit. So you got a lot of jealousy, you just got a lot of ego tension, people fighting for dominance, a lot of alpha personalities. So you know, the more that you can kick people out you know, the higher your standard gets and I feel like that's kind of somewhat what happened to me and it's not like they replaced me they're not looking to make any replacements they're really just trying to cut costs and I guess I was you know,
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dispose very convenient for you to tweet that
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was fun.
Law Smith
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things kind of worked out in a happy accident kind of way. So yeah. Yeah. Which
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Speaker 3
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later I was employed with awesome one week. Right in Yeah.
Law Smith
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A radio jobs are not a plenty right? You know when 900 million podcasts exists that's not
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Speaker 2
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a real number. I don't believe that's the number all the time. I don't believe it
Law Smith
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that St. rogie settings so it's true. He knows he knows all
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sounds like I numbers, that's all
Law Smith
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there. Yeah. And look at it that way Bubba. I grew up on Bubba.
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I Oh, I was raised on I mean,
Law Smith
15:33
Bubba was I mean he was the shock jock. Oh, yeah. Like 90 shock jock to a tee and knowing like like the Fisher a, the Fisher King was like kind of about that kind of style anytime somebody like their races announced guilty 93 three.
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Speaker 2
15:51
They'd read news stories and they'd be like a Hispanic man and that would guilty.
Law Smith
15:55
I didn't know what that guy was. I didn't know that guy was doing a voice until like last year. Wow. I never looked into it. I didn't know there's a guy doing a character I thought there's an old guy in there.
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Speaker 2
16:08
I'm like, I want to I want to believe I want to have fun. I mean one of these silly goosing guy is super super talented that's crazy that he does
Law Smith
16:17
something to me. So how's it going in that atmosphere? I when I talked to you You're like surprisingly really good. And they're honestly really respectful which is is good to hear. Because persona, his persona, you know, outside I always like hearing that like he's an actual good dude. And so as the team and you're learning how to twitch right I
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Speaker 3
16:40
learned a twitch Yeah, Twitch is definitely what pays the bills at Bubba radio network. But I'm, I'm still I'm getting more comfortable. But I'm still it's there's obviously different dynamic. I was very used to working with the guys that I work with at the bone, Johnny Bell and will codes. And what I really, our bond was really special because I did not feel like the token. The token check. I know how the formula works in in radio where it's like, you got three or four dudes and they're crazy. And then the chick is the one that like, pulls them
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Speaker 2
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back. What are the five guys they should have that on their morning? Show? One or two? Five should have them?
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Speaker 3
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Yeah, they still do. Yeah. And I definitely don't fit into that archetype. So I'm at at Baba, or sorry, at the bone. I was just I wasn't a chick. I mean, I am identify you you can use gender pronouns for hers. You know what she whatever, but I was just another person on the show. Now there were I can maybe count on maybe like one hand in four years when they were like your your Chicano. Like what say you about this topic? It was just I was just another person with a fucking light. But on boba show, like they're really trying to like, I mean, you know, Bubba you you you raise on Bubba, you understand that any time if there's like a chicken, he's gonna try to make it you know, uncomfortable or sexual or ask you like questions and shit. I mean, even today, I was getting grilled on stuff. And it's and I'm so not that. I don't feel like you lock in.
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Speaker 2
18:20
But you also realize that's what makes it good to that you're uncomfortable is weird. It's so much better. I
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know. That makes good radio. So I'll like lean into it
Law Smith
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when I ask you.
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Speaker 3
18:32
Oh, just any sort of sex this and that.
Law Smith
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I do like,
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don't tell us about it either. Just saying
Law Smith
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I do like embarrassing Ana and going you really beautiful looking really good. You know? It'd be nice to like, hug naked. She'd be like, come on. Watch it.
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Speaker 2
18:52
Yeah, that is it. That's embarrassing for you. That that's
Law Smith
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just crazy shape because it makes her blush. But be more creative. Dude. God got an improv class in a while. Hook. Hook naked.
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Yeah. It's the weirdest shit I've ever heard you say I want to
Law Smith
19:10
play? Yeah, play a game of hide the deck.
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on it. He actually say that to you.
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Speaker 3
19:17
Yeah, that is not out of character. But like Bubba is like that, except, like 10 times more intense where it's like, you know, he's gonna pick today. He was like,
Law Smith
19:26
Oh, do you think the juice bar is
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Speaker 3
19:28
a conspiracy? Because like, apparently I'm labeled like the conspiracy chick, which is, whatever, that's fine with me. You know, they're trying to label me as something because they're like, they don't know what to do with me. And I get it because I think the girl they had on before was like, more like TNA. Like, you know, it's in your face yoga pants, like, you know, kind of like used to her sexuality. I don't have that. Like I don't have a sexual bone in my body like in public where I'm like, Hey, what's up so yeah, I get really awkward and they they like that, that. I get that. fucking weird. So um, yeah, I'm just kind of getting used to the new crew and it is a bit different going from like a seat to seat one seat two to like a C. Three or four. Yeah, so that's kind of, you know,
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I'm learning I guess in a long time.
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Speaker 3
20:17
Yeah, no, I'm definitely like a seat. Sometimes the seat five, I don't know. I would say, Hey, we're, you're in the room. I'm in the room. I'm pointing at so that's good. But um, yeah, so I'm just kind of still figuring shit out. And it's gonna take a while and I've just kind of accepted that. And I go up and down. Seems like today was a great day. But like, I think last Thursday or something like was a really shitty day. And then I'm like, why am I even in this business? I suck. Like, I'm my own worst critic. And, you know, I don't I don't believe anybody's compliments ever. Unless I feel like I did good. Like today, I felt good. And I was like, we're good. That's, that's You good? Here's the thing look good. And this is like, this is something that was naked. No, this is what guys do and and I get it. It comes from a good place, but it makes me feel like a child. Um, they'll be like, Oh, you're doing so good.
Law Smith
21:16
You're doing great.
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You like your little radio.
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Speaker 3
21:22
You're telling me I'm doing good. But in all honesty, I know I did it and they're just being nice. And they like she, she's a girl. Be nice to the girl and I'm like, Don't fucking lie to me, like telling me I did shitty. I can handle it. I don't like I'm so anti participation trophy culture, that when I go I did that. Or I didn't say anything or really couldn't contribute. And people were like, oh, you'll get enough time I got it. And I'm like, shut up. I suck. Like, and then I go home and I just go like, why am I on radio, but then today was great. And I'm like,
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you know, so do you
Law Smith
21:56
know why today was great.
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Speaker 3
21:59
Yeah, cuz I really, I'm, I'm feeling a lot more comfortable. Like getting in there. And like, you know, maybe stepping on people a little bit because there's like six of us in the room. So there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen. Right You just got to sniper it in. And another thing that's really bizarre with Bubba is that no, I can't see anybody's face.
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Speaker 2
22:24
Oh, yeah. They're all in their little cubbies like Terry Gross. Oh, yeah, that's weird. Yeah, I don't like that. That's theirs. I also can't see law's face either. Really? So I missed your face. Yeah,
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Speaker 3
22:35
but like, I don't know, you can. You have like good proximity, you can use your
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I can see him out of the corner. He's gonna punch me I'll kind of
22:44
and there's only two of you.
Law Smith
22:46
And I'm wearing my blue blockers, my Samarasinghe, Blue vakre. So I can,
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Speaker 3
22:50
you know, maybe fancy as well. So yeah, that's also just like an interesting twist where I can't really pick up on like, like, at the bone. Like, you've been in the room wall. Like, you'll just go up, like, you'll raise your hand to make eye contact or whatever. But like, you can't do that there. You just gotta like, it's like, you're blind. And you just got it like you're like, yeah, like, like, Helen Keller, but you can hear so Ray Charles would probably be a better example. And you're listening. And you're just waiting for like,
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radio personalities.
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Speaker 3
23:18
Yeah, and there's a camera in front of you, and you can see yourself but but there's a 10 second delay so you're looking at yourself 10 seconds ago, so that's not helpful. So it's just kind of different.
Law Smith
23:29
Yeah, like it just it sucks to be a new person on the team anywhere you go work. Yeah, so like, it's it's triple the amount of like, intensity because everything's kind of scrutinized. Whatever you're doing and radio you
23:44
actually have to like, be like, interesting. You can't just be quiet. What?
Law Smith
23:49
where she's at? She's got to you got to listen. Really intently in snipe right now cuz you don't want to you can't bully buddy over because no one wants the new person and especially a girl get scrutinized on errors a new person.
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Speaker 3
24:04
He had bossy Yeah, I get called that. Bitch. I'm like, I'm just I just think the government is lying to us. He like all of a sudden, I'm like, fishy,
Law Smith
24:18
fishy, because you think the government's always like, does
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he like what's
Law Smith
24:24
his word unrelenting about
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with your opinions?
Law Smith
24:27
What do you think tinfoil hat day
24:29
stuff? And it's like so pitchy?
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Speaker 3
24:31
Yeah, I really feel like I have like a hot take that, you know, and sometimes, I mean, don't get me wrong. I really enjoy playing devil's advocate just because it's fun to like, flex your brain in a way where you're like, let me argue something that's different. Most of the time I do, like, I do believe what I argue but sometimes I'll just argue for the sake of arguing on it. Oh,
Law Smith
24:52
no one wants to listen to like, the female perspective. Yeah. For no reason. Things are going great. We need to get in a fight. But I agree the contrary and kind of logic, I want to see both sides of the argument
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Speaker 2
25:06
in radio than real life. So but he's doing that in real life sucks. But if you're there, you know, on the radio, it's it's another angle. That's Yeah,
Law Smith
25:14
but I always heard Rafi may talk about like punching up a joke. You'd have like a punch line. And then you go, how did this person the third person in the room see how did the dog See it? How did someone walking by see this happen? And like, right, it opened it up a lot more. It made it funnier, and actually, in a weird way made it more inclusive by adding all these other POV ease and stuff. But it's good that you're not getting pigeonholed into being like, you know, with wood, wood, wood for joint stuff going on, like, yeah,
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Speaker 3
25:46
I mean, don't get me wrong. They try to like push me in that direction.
Law Smith
25:50
But that's like stern esque. Like, that's the shock jockey kind of way. Like,
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yeah, and I get it a little bit.
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Speaker 3
25:57
You know, and it's definitely like a boys club. And so they you know, they try to, I just, I'm getting so comfortable being uncomfortable. Like it's not even phasing. Which is so weird to say, Yeah, when I'm like, I know, they're gonna grill me they're gonna ask me about like, juice
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board and like, Shape Builder.
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Speaker 3
26:18
Shit, and I just go Okay, well, and what? Like, here's the thing
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Speaker 2
26:21
I said, don't any questions. It was like, yeah, it was the only
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manscape right. And I'm sure you all thought that. Thank God. Yeah.
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dm us.
Law Smith
26:32
Yeah, whatever. Send a clam. What do they call it a clam, gram. bio mass. Was that real? That's good. I haven't heard that. I didn't make it up. I wish I did. A pretty good.
26:48
I forgot.
Law Smith
26:50
But there's some because you're now you're kind of embarrassed. That's why I'm
26:54
gonna make a point. But I
Law Smith
26:56
forgot that you're there. They're kind of pushing you to kind of talk about your, your lady bits. And
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Speaker 3
27:04
oh, yeah, I remember I was gonna say so I mean, I'm sure you guys know this. But you know, if you send someone as being a getting uncomfortable, you're going to go in harder, right? So the trick is what I try to do, and sometimes I play into it, because I know the awkwardness is fun to listen to. But if I really don't want to talk about something, I could sound completely unfazed by it. Just completely unfazed. And then that takes like their fun out of it. But sometimes it's it's like something light and whatever. And they're asked me about digging in the butt, and I'll just like, you know, act all awkward and shit. And then they'll like it, they enjoy that shit. Because it's, it's fun for them to, you know,
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Speaker 2
27:43
feel the need to do a little bit of a character, where it's like, you play into it a little bit, you're kind of doing that thing where it's not necessarily completely off. I mean, they have a guy in the room who's faking an entire personality on the show. So obviously, it's not unbelievable hundred percent of living. Yeah, I need a little bit
Law Smith
28:03
like 10% more of yourself, right? I would
3
Speaker 3
28:05
say 15 like, I always say it's like yourself up like 15% and play into shit. You know, if it's, if it's your plan into a character or you're acting like you're really you know, insecure about something or really confident about something and you're totally not like, I I do that too, sometimes, but for the most part, I'm just, I'm just being myself. And if I'm feeling uncomfortable, like, you'll feel it, too. I'll just I'll just make these weird noises and so like boba is played on that as well. And he'll play like this. SpongeBob laugh and I it sounds eerily similar to my own laughing I'm uncomfortable. So it's fun. It's good. Listen, it's a movie. You know? It's it mean? I don't know if it's like a it's a move up, but I definitely or money in it. Listen, a lateral move is still a move. I'm seeing I moved up I'm doing mornings now and making more money and have more opportunities. So I mean, that's got to be when
Law Smith
29:02
you filled up word, baby. Look. Yeah, you know, that's, that's
29:07
two shows that I know. You know,
Law Smith
29:11
for me Really? Like he is one of the legends of radio. It shows it is kind of cool. A lot of people talk shit about him but it's still like I still respect him. I don't you know, I'm not in a bubble army truck nuts on my car. But you know,
2
Speaker 2
29:27
well, I mean, there's like, like five dudes in the whole country that all had these like crazy things that were like huge epic,
Law Smith
29:35
and always interested in like things that happened in
29:37
radio.
Law Smith
29:38
He went all the way down. He was all the way up when all the way down with backup. Yeah, love, you know, kind of hearing that story out of him.
3
Speaker 3
29:46
Yeah, definitely have a Yeah, I mean, even today he was he said howard stern a painting and he painted a bubble original. And like he caught it. They got it. Clip from.
30:02
Oh, that was so cool. What kind of hours?
Law Smith
30:06
Huh? What kind of painting was it?
30:09
Like it adds
Law Smith
30:13
you know, jerk off.
3
Speaker 3
30:15
Wow. You don't it looks like to me I told him it looks like wrapping paper. like like like he just put route
30:23
wrapping paper art.
30:26
Let me get curious like
30:27
oil painting like you just kind of like,
Law Smith
30:30
Dude do the same kind of art.
30:32
Yeah, we'll have we'll hook naked together and do art.
Law Smith
30:36
Okay, do you hate that hug naked line?
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Speaker 2
30:39
Guys. Obviously it works really good. She won't even like be in studio with zoom, call it
Law Smith
30:46
because we couldn't get my shit together to coordinate this. Wait while we're the show, but not the same room before. Before I forget. I want to ask the question, we try to ask our guests. What advice could you give your 13 year old self, you know, a wave
31:03
either professionally down to 13?
Law Smith
31:05
Whatever. I'd like 13 because it makes it open up to silly, silly comments. But what what advice could you give to your younger self that it could be professional or it could be just yourself personally?
31:23
I'm trying to think
3
Speaker 3
31:28
it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
Law Smith
31:33
Yeah,
3
Speaker 3
31:34
yeah, I'd say probably that I'm not gonna say like, oh, love yourself. Because like,
Law Smith
31:38
you walk on eggshells a lot growing up.
3
Speaker 3
31:42
I was a really I was a really good kid. And I was really on obedience and scared of authority. I was like the perfect kid. I'm not bragging. Like I really was gonna ask my parents. I don't know what happened. I
Law Smith
31:56
would change your dad right here. Come on it No.
3
Speaker 3
32:02
I'm so. But I would say that you just fucking don't do everybody here. This is gonna sound like cheesy as fuck. But like, everybody's path is different. And when people give you advice, you don't have it. That's not the that's not the law of the land. Yeah. You know? Yes. Let me like, yes. Yeah. Go. I remember talking to this guy. This was when I was in Michigan. He was like, worked for some company. And he's giving me some advice. And he told me that if I wanted to do talk radio, I would probably have to spend at least 15 years doing overnights at like a country music station before anybody would let me even sit at the table. And six months later, I moved to Tampa and I was on a show. And I didn't have to do any fucking overnights. Yeah, I mean, now if I would have listened to that, I would have stayed in Michigan, I would have said oh, I have to do pay my due diligence. I have to, you know, do promotions for seven years. Like all this bullshit. And when I heard that I go fuck that I'm getting out of this fucking city. I'm moving somewhere else. And I figured it out. And six months later, I was I was doing the job I wanted to do. I didn't listen to this fuckface even though we had been in the business for like, 1520 years, that was his experience. He was a little nervous. she bade a bitch Okay, I have a lot of animosity towards him. But like
33:25
that, not that Kushner was a different stuff.
Law Smith
33:30
In every kind of organization, right? There's always that shitty guy that's like, you didn't have I didn't give up. You know? Yeah, you do. There's no way you could do it. Like you're supposed to do it this way. And it's like,
2
Speaker 2
33:42
right. That's obviously already failed, right? Yes. This is nailing it in and doesn't want anybody to good. His
Law Smith
33:50
butthole is tight. He's talking to you. Oh, yeah. puckering, he's worried about losing his job all the time. Yeah. Yeah.
3
Speaker 3
33:58
And he was like, and someone had recommended a hit like me talk to him. So another guy I respected was like, oh, talk to Seth about, you know, getting in the biz. And when this guy's telling me like, you're gonna have to do this for 15 years, like promotions or overnights or some bullshit. I just remember thinking, fuck that. I'm not doing that. I just and I just was like, I'm cutting the line. I don't know how I'm gonna cut the line. But I'm a big fucking figure it out. And I did because I was just I was willing to move I was willing to do different things that other people weren't willing to do. So if I would have listened to him, I would have been still fucking doing overnights at you know, WRI F in Michigan like when Jewish fucking negative 20 degree weather in the winter is like, absolutely not. So that would be my advice is just because someone gives you advice. That's their experience. That's not how it has to be.
Law Smith
34:48
Right. Yeah, we I mean, I thought it was kind of innate that we all pick and choose advice. You know, like, I don't like the friend that asked me for advice just to hear the answer. He wants to hear it. Really, right? You just run down all the scenarios. That's annoying, but like, I think we all kind of cherry pick a little bit because if advice worked like, hey, I want some advice on XYZ, and then you told me something and I go, Okay, cool. I'm gonna do that now. Like, there's no wavering, I'll just be able to do it. Then we couldn't, you know, it's one of those things. It's like, you got to keep in the nautical beacons kind of thing. Does that make sense? Yeah. What? Yeah, yes, sir. Um, well, I'm again, I'm again, in studio tonight. Eric's had one too many truly is, I think.
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Speaker 3
35:37
Truly nice. I like to think lemonade was really good.
Law Smith
35:43
Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna say same winner. When is the world gonna get your podcasts? Your solo podcast? When are we 1:01am I gonna annoy you about getting that going? To the point where you do it.
35:57
Oh, I've been doing it for like, a month and a half.
36:00
Wait, no, obviously. He's a fan. You're not promoting it?
36:03
Are you?
3
Speaker 3
36:06
Yeah, I posted on like Twitter and my Instagram and stuff. I'm still like, coming up. I don't I didn't even really come up with like a name for it yet. I know. That sounds weird. Okay, well, that is Yeah,
2
Speaker 2
36:16
I was on your side. Yeah. And then you don't have a name for your blog. I mean, I gotta go.
3
Speaker 3
36:20
It's like just right now just like just on a humble radio. Um, the reason why is because and I feel like there's no real like theme to it. So I'm still trying to like figure it out. But initially, it was just because when I got fired, everybody wanted to know what happened. And I just wanted to get content out there. And explain. So I like I did this whole thing where I was like, in 24 hours, I'm going to tell you the story of what happened. And I'm not holding back anything. And you know, all that, like, stop. And then and then I had like, all these people like, I got like, 4000 listens like, right? Like it was crazy from having like zero, no podcasts, like 4000 listens, because people were just like, so interested. So then I'm like, let's really capitalize on this momentum. So we'll and I've been doing a weekly podcast, he uses it for his HMB radio, and then I use it for my podcast as well, which is just like, on a home or radio, I guess for right now.
Law Smith
37:16
Good. I like y'all together. You guys are you do all three? Y'all see my good friends when you're had Dr. And then? You know, it's hard that chemistry is tough when you're really good. Like Eric and I, we have great chemistry vibra perfect. And so what? What do you say on those Groundlings classes? Yeah, um, but uh, but you know it, I like you and Willard like besties in it. It definitely bleeds through when y'all are talking about stuff.
3
Speaker 3
37:47
Yeah, we hang out on the rag and we actually enjoy each other's company. So I hope that that you can feel that through
Law Smith
37:54
the speakers. What's the podcasts on? iTunes and Spotify and all that stuff? Or not yet?
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Speaker 3
38:01
No, right now, it's just on SoundCloud. Um, I need to,
38:06
we're gonna have to go straight down like that.
38:09
Yeah, I know. We're gonna have to get
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away. Yeah. I mean, I can I can
2
Speaker 2
38:14
do it. I got 4000 listens. You're right. You need to capitalize. Get on it. But
3
Speaker 3
38:18
yeah, yeah. I mean, I was just like, right away. But
Law Smith
38:23
you know, to keep them filler,
38:26
filler guests. You know?
3
Speaker 3
38:27
Yeah, I'll definitely be to put it on more more platforms, for sure. I just started with that, because I literally just wanted to get it out immediately. And I know that I mean, I had my last podcast on iTunes, and I had to get like, like, verified or vetted or something. It was like a process. And so I just wanted something where I could get it out, like, the next day. And then to be honest with you, I feel like I've just been like, you know, adding to that instead of like, really trying to, to grow the platform. To me, it's just more about getting reps in
Law Smith
38:57
and consistency. You're doing that, which is really important, you know, because if people yeah, gained all those people, and you just, you know, didn't do anything for two weeks and then did a bunch of episodes.
2
Speaker 2
39:09
I would assume it was a one time thing right? I find that he explained what happened and that's the end of it. If you don't keep doing it.
Law Smith
39:17
Yeah, I feel shitty. We we weren't consistent with ours. And that's why this episode will go out a little bit later. We need to start banking. Where are we on time we get Sorry?
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Speaker 2
39:31
I have like he didn't look Did you know where? I mean? You know, we're Eric is silly filled the time that we normally fulfill with we're good.
Law Smith
39:40
Well, any any. Anything you want to ask us? No. Okay. Thanks for coming on. You know, good luck with Bubba.
39:52
Yeah. Thank you for having me.
39:56
What was it?
Law Smith
39:57
I said Good luck on Bub on all down.
39:59
Yeah. Thank you for having
40:05
me want me to stay
Law Smith
40:09
up later? All right, we can go on a jog run six feet behind
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me on. I appreciate it.
40:21
Thank you
