#403 How To Be A B---- w/ Daily Dose Of B Podcast
Eric is listed as OUT on the Injury Report this week. He is getting a 2nd vasectomy. He is very thorough. Law has been busy doing power leg stuff and being cool and he's totally not writing this episode description.
Since we had a spring break week scheduling snafu - and we don't want to miss a week per the algorithm - and, AND we don't want to leave listeners hanging without an episode for a week - we're swapcasting an interview Law did on the Daily Dose Of B Podcast
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Intro 0:00
What was that the paleo cookie? 4:22
How to break through the glass ceiling. 7:45
The ultimatum list of things my family wanted me to stop doing. 11:56
Stand-up comedy at De Bine Brewery. 19:20
Don’t Say Gay Bill. 25:08
There’s no linear map. 31:30
Nothing makes everybody uncomfortable if I’m dating a woman. 36:16
What would you like to hear from the future? 41:36
How much time do you actually have in the day? 49:23
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Law Smith 00:00
sweat equity podcast, the number one business slash comedy podcast in the world pragmatic entrepreneurial advice with real rodar talk. Why am I doing this intro? From what looks like a forest? Well, we messed up scheduling snafu. You know, it's spring break. We've Eric and I both have kids. And Eric is out for the count. Because he got a second vasectomy. He just is very thorough. You wanted to get that done. So we're going to do a little swap cast. I was interviewed on my friend Britney's podcast daily dose of be get it. Like be could mean a lot of things. Like female dog stuff, I think. Or maybe but stuff. I don't know. Anyway. If you'd like this episode, but probably more of the other episodes we have with CEOs, executives, you know, entrepreneurs. Share it with a friend a loved one family member that you don't talk to your mom's. This is your mom's favorite podcast. She listens to it on her Sony Walkman. And she loves it. I'm wearing my own merch. You can check that out on our store, sweat equity pod.com store or slash merch one of the two. He gets a sweat equity pod.com you get there. And this episode, wave and I did an episode sponsored by Squarespace. We're all in one platform to make a website without having a program. But if you want to do some custom code, like I do, because I'm a baller, I'm a Squarespace baller, dude. You can customize it as much as you want. But for most of y'all, you don't want to have to program and you can use your tiny little pause to have a content management system of CMS. Like Squarespace Don't. Don't fuck with WordPress or Weebly or Wix. Squarespace is this is they got fluid engine, where basically everything on the website is a template and it's on a grid, like old school math grid paper. Holler if you hear me. Let's get into the swamp cast episode.
02:30
Hardy toddy cold sweat equity.
02:45
Sweat equity.
Brittany J 02:51
Sweat equity. You are listening to the sweat equity podcast. Welcome to the daily dose of V podcast. I'm your host, Brittany. And I'm about to give you a window into the mind of yours truly. In a world where journaling is passe. And self awareness is deficient among us all. Here's your daily dose of B.
Tationa Thomas 03:20
Hopefully, if not bear with us because the episode is gonna be awesome. So it doesn't really matter.
03:25
Right? We'll do our best for you guys. But anyway, I'll talk to you on the spot. I'm Tatiana.
Tationa Thomas 03:29
This is Brittany, she just outed the heck out of me. And we have an awesome guest today. And we can't wait to find out what the heck you do. Because I know that you have an awesome podcast which I just listened to. I'm a brand new fan, FYI. So tell us about yourself about your podcast, who you are what you do.
Law Smith 03:50
My name is law Smith, I'm a comedian, strategy advisor during the day and have a podcast sweat equity. It's kind of amended the two things comedy meets entrepreneurship kind of talk, real talk. I just want to say this is a great idea to do this on the iPhone. In the biggest room you have. The cabinet is part of this, you fix it in post right?
04:16
It'll be fine. You'll just hear the echoes of this cave. And then you'll know
Tationa Thomas 04:21
editing skills.
Law Smith 04:22
I don't have a voice that carry so I'm trying to I'll try to I need a mic. That's when I'm on my podcast or or do stand up. Excuse me. That was the what was that the Paleo cookie?
04:35
Don't blame the Paleo cookie for what
Law Smith 04:37
for bourbon? Yeah. But I did bring my white trash. Excellent drink because he said What do you want to drink before? beforehand and I was like, here's the best drink. It's hard to it's hard to make. I even got my fanciest gay friend to enjoy it. He's a fancy old gay and would not put up like you go to his house for dinner party you have to sing for your supper. And so it's diet or zero sugar Canadian dropped Canadian dry Canada Dry Canadian Canada Dry different lemonade with with what's it called diet ginger eliminate with Tito's super white trash. I know it sounds that way but it's the best and it looks that way also it looks that way it looks like you've had you've had a couple of glasses of water and repeat it out
05:31
and literally or like you're drinking pinot grigio or something.
Tationa Thomas 05:34
So you can really pretend it is whatever you want it to be. It could be pee, it could be wine, it could be your white trash drink.
Law Smith 05:40
You know, that's very nice. And it's in a wineglass. So imagine whatever I want it to be cheers to you. Well, my mom, literally the other day said, she's stopped asking me if I want to be an attorney, or a doctor. I'm 37. So I think she's like, kind of. She said, Why don't you become an Imagineer? And I was like, Huh, that's what that sounded like to me. You can imagine you can make imagine whatever you want it to be. I'm like, What the fuck is that? Imagine? She said, Disney hires people to be Imagineers I go how much? Imaginary grad school do you have to go? Do that? Imagine year?
06:15
Seems like a lot of work. Well, I'm
Tationa Thomas 06:16
pretty sure they don't make a lie here working for Disney actually isn't necessarily worth it. Unless you're like a way up. They
Law Smith 06:22
don't like Jews. So you
06:25
can't work for Disney that you're out.
Law Smith 06:27
There seems to be well, I'm the most Jewish Gentile. I've been called. So I love my Jewish friends. I love the Jewish culture. But I kind of non Jewish in a way. No, this is a great setup.
06:40
Well, you're gonna have to enjoy it because we've made up for what we lack in microphone. We made up Korean snacks.
Law Smith 06:46
easily the best spread I've had coming into a podcast.
Tationa Thomas 06:50
I told that, you know, this isn't just for you. I mean, it is for you. But like we do this on the regular. This isn't just to make up for a lack of equipment that I totally royally screwed us.
06:59
Yeah. What are we gonna have this and
Law Smith 07:01
I'm gonna imagine. Yeah.
Tationa Thomas 07:05
Well, now that we have enough Alright, so we have an imagineer on our podcast today.
07:10
As of his most important first question already, yeah. Oh, the first question.
Law Smith 07:15
No, you stop very big. It gets the job.
07:17
Oh, no, no, no, please don't tell us. So more like a school? Oh, geez. No, no, no, no. All right, we're just editing. So we like to ask people,
Law Smith 07:31
I've never had any complaints.
07:32
Thank you. Thank you how to get an imagineer
Law Smith 07:37
to do all the foreplay beforehand, except for all away.
07:45
What we're living, we like to ask people who are on our podcast is that, since the name of our podcast is glass ceiling, girls, we believe that everyone had to break through a glass ceiling in their life, like some really big thing that they didn't think I could get through that was really challenging to like, become their higher self. Okay, so if you can think back to what that is where you can even have several if you want,
Law Smith 08:07
um, one, one big one comes to mind, it's about the time you and I that was I was going through a bad divorce and kind of had to deal with a lot of the psychological part of it, because my family did a mental health intervention on me buy all the bad intel they're getting from my now ex wife. And it kind of came to fruition in there. And I think when you and I met, it was like 2018 2019. So I was going through the divorce time, what people don't realize that I didn't realize till I went through it is like, the pre separation is probably the worst time because you're still living with a person. You hate their guts, they hate you. But you're still if you have kids, you're still usually living in the same place. And so when you and I met, you were starting this podcast, or, you know, I think starting this podcast back in the day, in my office, and I was just trying to hold it all together, because I was like, I believe what she was telling you was true. My ex wife, like, I'm a bad father, but husband, brother, but son, because I thought she was reflecting me back better than I could because she used to be able to do that. But I still I kind of lost my sense of self did a lot of therapy kind of came through the other side. And I'm kind of an aggressive optimist. So I'm like, you know, with every bad there's a good and the good thing out of that is you can't take me any lower psychologically. I was never in like the suicide area. But I'd say that's probably the lowest below for that. But
09:46
you know, I mean, the suicide area where you will hovering,
Law Smith 09:49
talking psychologically, if we're doing like a scale like that's probably the lowest part where you think you're not worthy enough. We think you have nothing. So I was like Just above that line, I never thought about any of that stuff. But it was definitely took me a couple of years to get out of that. And, you know, I look at it now like, there's now I look at it almost like a blessing because there's nothing that can there's no no worse situation to be in. And now I'm prepared for it. So I've dated women that have tried to do some projecting on me. And I'm like, sucks for you. I have like a PhD in this now. I got
10:28
a PhD in narcissistic exes.
Law Smith 10:30
And I grew up all around women. So like I, you know, I'll I'll sit and listen to anybody and validate their validate how they're feeling. But when it keeps projecting out back towards me, I would be like, again, sorry. Like, you're not, this isn't gonna work kind of thing. So I would say, you know, I'm still getting out of that financial help post divorce. Sad dad pad. We were talking about off air before we started, but I see the forest for the trees. So it's, it's all good now.
Tationa Thomas 11:00
So we're in a better place and
Law Smith 11:02
started with a funny answer. But
11:04
no, I like that. So it's so good. Because I think a lot of our, like, listener group can relate to that in some way or another, like a bad breakup, because it can be such a psychological warfare. I mean, 100%
Law Smith 11:22
negative 100k. Starting out after that, so yeah, so not no assets, nothing just net in the whole negative 100k And so often quite paranoid. Oh, cashflow? Yeah, I'm still having. So I'll be out of all of that debt by the end of this year. But it's, yeah, just to get out of that shit. Which is fine. That's part of it. It'll make me better at the end. So
Tationa Thomas 11:49
yeah, and that's what glasses are all about once you get through them. And, you know, it's about the learning experience on the other side. So
Law Smith 11:57
right, right. And honestly, if I didn't have our podcast, it would have been a lot harder, because it was like the only thing every week that had to show up for kind of thing in the last five years, I was
Tationa Thomas 12:09
gonna ask when you started that, and so that was already a thing before the horse,
Law Smith 12:14
we came up as an in the ultimatum list of things My family wanted me to stop doing. Like they do. I'm the worst guy to do that, too. Because it was like, I've watched every episode of intervention. And so I know, I know, the template. It's like, alright, if you got one piece of paper, the first parts, like, when you're a kid, you were this way. And that'll be like, the first fourth of it, then it'll be like, when you're adult, these are all good things, you know, you're this, this and this, then it halfway through the paper, it'll be like, here comes the big butt. But now you're this or this or this. And then the last fourth of the paper, the template is like, it's one piece of paper is like, will you do these things, blah, blah, blah. And they gave me an ultimatum was closed down my business, turn off social media, which didn't make sense, because it didn't really know what I did. I do a lot of paid advertising and social media for clients. So that was out. Like, shut down my business shut down the the office I had, I was like, I can't just jump out of a lease that I've just signed for a year. Unless you guys want to pay for it. Right? There's no it was a cheap office. It's like 10 grand, but for the year, but it was like, if you really want me to do that, here you go take that bill. And ultimatums don't work ultimately, you know, and then, so after that point, I went to our third or fourth marriage counselor we went to for and a lot of people think I'm impatient. I like to pitch about the small things because I think it's funny. But when it comes to really being patient, I feel like I'm pretty good, too impatient, and, and was like, I'll do a 13 week evaluation with our one of the therapists we already saw, by the way for marriage counselors, and the whole first, every, every time we had a marriage counselor, the first meeting was just letting her talk for an hour. And then I'd be like, none of that. A lot of that is farcical and then all right. That's the session. That's how you begin every one of them. You know,
Tationa Thomas 14:20
what a waste of time? Well, I don't know. Counseling, but
Law Smith 14:25
at the time, I thought it was cathartic for her to maybe let that out. Okay, fair, but I could repeat it verbatim by the time we got to the fourth one. Okay. And then the the fourth one we had, she thought it was listening. And I was just like, sitting just like, just like, I've heard this so much. You can. I think you can lie to yourself so much that you think it's true, in a lot of ways. So I was like, I know the script. I know I could repeat it back. So I just my body language is probably really poor. But then the therapist is like, we'll see he's not even paying attention. shouldn't I go? I'm gonna repeat back everything she just said in a clip notes way. And I did it. And she was like, Okay, well sessions out. And I was just like, the fuck the next session we went into the therapist. She's terrible. She shouldn't have been a therapist. She was late. In her in her own office, she was there.
15:18
Oh, yeah, I have therapists like that, too. In Tampa. Actually, that was literally late to every single session in her own office. I called her
Law Smith 15:24
out on it. I go, do you think that's a good business model? Do you think that's, do you think that builds trust in us, for when you're late, and you're actually present? You're here? You're late because of some other bullshit. And so yeah, I get I got into business mode when she heard I started spouting, but it was like, she was like, now I've got all my notes. And she read back everything that this this this, this happened, I go, you didn't hear anything. I said, Did you? And she was like, what? And I was like, I told you exactly what she said back your notes said, I wasn't listening. I don't think you retained anything. You can hold a reservation, you can make a reservation, you can hold a reservation, it's an outside phone joke. And so you know, so I went back to my third of fourth marriage counselors went to him, did like Goodwill Hunting sessions, like 13 weeks in a row, when I didn't have the time or money to do it. I still did it. But he was like, there's nothing wrong with you. And so, you know, it was one of those things where that was a whole bad situation. It was stressful. I was holding on to a business that was like, crumbling, because of my mental capacity. And then because of all the baby mama drama, and, and then like that, that was something that was validating that came out of it.
16:46
That's at least didn't get somebody that validated. You
Law Smith 16:49
know, he would try me he'd be like, he'd wait to like, minute 57 of the hour and be like, you know, what? What, if you had to do a sculpture of your family, what would that look like? And I'm like, what? And he's like, if you had to make a sculpture of your family, I'm like, I don't know I tallest to shortest. What? Like, what do you want? Yeah, we I come back next week. And he'd be like, he would try theory on me. He'd be like, No, I'd be like, well, it looks like this. And I had everybody kind of in a linear kind of way, like a picture on Christmas or something. And he's like, No, I think you'd like it was your family all around you and you in the middle? I think you'd like this attention. I was like, that's your completely way off. And we would discuss that. So he was he was like, he's like the decayed with a heart of gold.
17:38
So he tried to lace was listening to Yeah, he did.
Law Smith 17:41
He like he would ask like, what's your definition of masculinity and femininity, and I would take a minute to kind of think about it. And I was like, oh, no, you know, me take a minute, you'd be like, you're a perfectionist. And I go, Well, I don't. I'm just like, clearly, I'm not a perfectionist. If you see what I'm wearing is like no, like, you would wait to the last minute. So you're a college you have to write a paper, you've got your professor tells you to do two pages every week for six weeks, you have to do 12 page paper, right? You would wait till the last two days or day and write it all in the last second. And I was like, Yep, pretty much. He's like, you get a C plus on it. But you would tell everybody you could have gotten today, if you did it, like the people in the class, did it. And I was like, fuck you do? Yeah. And I was like, and he's like, because if he did it the way the professional told you to do it, and you got to D you would have been devastated. And I was like, man, and I was like, god dammit, he's probably right. So you know, stuff like that, where I didn't want to go through an evaluation, but I got I got stuff out of it at the end.
18:57
So that was hard to subject yourself to.
Law Smith 18:58
Sure. I mean, I stand up as you're your own worst critic all the time. So
19:04
I was gonna say there's a lot of self loathing. I think that goes along with being being in Santa comedy usually a little
Law Smith 19:10
bit. Yeah, I mean, if you come offstage, and you're like, fuck, and nailed it and murder, like I'm the best if it's probably not a good sign.
Tationa Thomas 19:20
I've been watching stand up at this local brewery the past month, I want to say every single week and Devine brewery in Palm Harbor, so I've been going every Wednesday with my fiance and we stumbled into on accident one Wednesday, and like when I were obsessed, because Wednesday is our date night. So we've been gone every single Wednesday. I'll be there this Wednesday. Well, yeah, we'll be there. Okay, great. So he's gonna go up eventually to because he's really funny and he doesn't he's not gonna scripted or anything. And he said that he doesn't scripted. I tell him that too. But listen, if he could scripts it and fails, then he can like blame it on that and, you know, goes up there Wednesday. You're like, well, I didn't script anything, you know, so
Law Smith 19:58
he'll go a lot faster. Anyone wants to?
Tationa Thomas 20:01
Oh, I'm sure. And three minutes is probably a lot because you get three minutes out there and it's probably a lot longer.
20:06
I mean, my little sister just did stand up for the very first time. They're also saying, Listen, you're gonna get five minutes. There was no one else who signed up. They gave her 25 minutes. They're not there. Station in St. Pete. Wow. She stood up there for 25 minutes making mom jokes and I was like, good for you. Awesome.
Tationa Thomas 20:25
And actually, that's probably hilarious. I would love to go see a frickin comedian make his mom jokes because I haven't seen that one yet. She
20:32
has like a whole like joke about constipation, which I'm like, you're so bold to do a five full minutes of you talking about being constantly
Tationa Thomas 20:39
oh my god, I'm driving horses divine and I hope you come and but what I was gonna say mom
Law Smith 20:43
jeans Christina pizza new specialty just wanted you to you should check out if you want the constipation mom jokes. Oh, I
Tationa Thomas 20:50
will. Yeah, I'm all for the patient. Okay. Yeah, no, no, I was gonna say is the funniest jokes. I think we're when people go up there and they kind of bomb it. And then they start making fun of themselves about how bad their bomb they're like, Oh, well, I tried or whatever. Then we start cracking. Like it's a little old. I've gone for a month and it's not old to me yet. So that's,
Law Smith 21:09
that's good for a while, but then you'll become like kind of a maverick in the audience to be like, okay, this person didn't prepare this. Like you can start telling sounds like, I go up with nothing. But I've been doing that for years. So
21:22
he's up with literally nothing every time
Law Smith 21:23
I tried to wow,
Tationa Thomas 21:26
because it's fun. That's I think that's what
21:28
do you think of like, in this moment? You just think of like funny things that you could just observe or you try and like read the room?
Law Smith 21:34
Sometimes. So yeah, so what's going on in the room? Sometimes you get a vibe in the room when you walk in. So if you walk into a comedy club, always try to like kind of weird corny kind of your your mom's friend that loves crystals kind of way. Kind of feel the room. Like I'll feel the energy of the room like my mom's friends.
21:56
That hands a hand up there has crystals in it
Law Smith 22:00
to be turquoise. Yet, oh,
22:03
lazuli. It's
Law Smith 22:04
waffles loosely. Yeah. He doesn't even know what it is. I know what it is. It's a color that you need. That's also a crystal. I grew up around women. You got to you got to remember that part. I know I'm very much an alpha male. But, but I grew up I grew up around a lot of Alfa women. So like I watched like Golden Girls and shit, which is also one of the best sitcoms still, but like I don't watch like Terms of Endearment and any Debra Winger movie that'll make you cry beaches. Before I got to see like Terminator or diehard or good good. They saw good bass here. Yeah. It's really great watching like, why is everybody in a bad mood?
22:48
Why is everybody so true? That's like, honestly, I think because we want to cry. Like, you know, it's so funny. I've like noticed at now as a mother like, I used to think like, why is my mom always like, in an extreme mood, like she was either very frustrated, or like bawling about something. And I remember thinking as a child like, what's wrong with us emotionally disturbed is not that bad here and life and now is an actual adult. I'm like in the kitchen like talking about my life stresses.
Law Smith 23:19
Walk look, by watch Big Fish, the big fish or Interstellar, all bawl my eyes out, but I don't look for that.
23:29
That should be in your stick.
Tationa Thomas 23:30
Sometimes. I'm like, I just need like a good cry and then I'll go listen a bunch of sad music which may not even pertain to my life but sometimes you just need to like the release I get that and it's very like seldom at least
Law Smith 23:42
like sad country every now and again.
Tationa Thomas 23:44
I'm only sad country storytelling
Law Smith 23:47
like real real country not like radio country. Yeah, Texas country.
23:52
In the or sad country song go to. Um,
Law Smith 23:55
there's a Jason Boland song. Guy. I can't remember the name of it now. But it's like a ballad that you're like, this is like I added on the car when a friend came in. He's like you Okay? Oh, no, I just liked the song. It's a really well, well written song. I don't know. There's a lot of Chris Ledoux songs a lot of who else? Making the motorcars is kind of
24:21
haven't heard any of these people are all like,
Law Smith 24:23
kind of Texas. Austin country.
24:26
Interesting. Really an indie country.
Law Smith 24:28
Yeah, I've been for a while while learning new things. I didn't know. Yeah, cuz
24:34
but I've also like been weirdly avoiding hanging out with you. So how have we why that's fact. Not on burgers really? hits me in the wrong spot. Yeah. But you were saying that like you read the room, and then you kind of just gather intel on the people in the room. Yeah, you
Law Smith 24:49
read the room like that place. Dubai brewery that Matt Fernandez puts the show on? It's a book open mic. But like, if I forget how read that Room is, so there'll be a lot of like Magga people in there. So
Tationa Thomas 25:05
literally the dude last night was making a bunch of Magga jokes. Oh my god. Yeah. So like, super,
Law Smith 25:09
I'll forget that because most rooms you go into are very liberal, mostly or tend to be liberal leaning. And so I'll go in there and I was just talking about DeSantis. And I wasn't really the governor of Florida. And I was just saying, like, just bringing him up was like, and I was like, Oh, I forgot that talk about how I forgot about that on stage. And I was like, I should have noticed the golf cards up front. Oh, my. Well, it's awful highway, but it's a brewery. So there's like dirty bearded guys that work there that you think love like grunge music, you know. And there's, there's some hot older mom, like bartenders that weren't there. And it feels like a very liberal setup, because the backgrounds very artsy, and all that stuff. And then I forget, oh, most of the people in here are probably Republican. So I didn't I'm not really political one way or the other. I hate both sides. I just look at DeSantis is like he he did a good job, I think in the lockdown. Making sure everything opened up because I think the economic part of I didn't say it this way. But I do think the economic part of the lockdown was probably the worst part of it. Yes. But he he's now we're watching him get into wrestler mode. Like, he like hates mass like, like aggressively like, like a mask raped him or something like, so I just was talking about how he's getting into that WW II like territory, where he's becoming a wrestler in front of our eyes. So that's a thought I had like,
26:49
I loved how you DeSantis but I still think that's true.
Law Smith 26:51
Oh, what you're right. I think he's we he's really jumping the shark in a way right now. And we're watching it slowly happen. And like, you know, he's getting aggressive with Disney Disneyland where I can't or Disney World where it can't be imagined here. The tax prices go up on that like plot of land, which I didn't know is the thing or the don't say gay bill, which is PR in a very poor way. I'd say I have nothing. I have nothing wrong with that bill. But the way it's called the don't say gay bill.
27:23
But that was orchestrated also, like how can we make people hate this call the don't say gay bill. Right?
Law Smith 27:30
If you don't read into it. That bill, right definitely sounds horrible. But it's like, Oh, you don't want teachers explaining shit to young kids under that, right? So like, so you'll have fun when you do stand up. So you'll have I have a lot of thoughts. I'll write down I use Evernote on my phone religiously. As I was driving around, I had the thought about DeSantis like, the days before I went on stage and then we get into the teacher thing with the don't say gay bill. And I'd be like remember when we wanted teachers to have guns? Now? That's like a thought I had a long time ago. I was like, think of all the teachers we've had Do you want any of them to have a gun on the premises? The let alone explain the most about sexual orientation and everything when they're five
Tationa Thomas 28:19
with their gun in their frickin right get Jesus Christ right.
Law Smith 28:23
But my fucking teacher could never get a goddamn VHS to work. What a load Glock
28:31
overhead projectors always spoken. Oh my god. Always have the blowback from
Tationa Thomas 28:35
that right plan. Heads up seven up. Forget it, kid.
Law Smith 28:38
Where's the Asian kid? Come here. Help me fix this.
28:40
There's my Where's where's the magnet? kid? He's
Law Smith 28:44
the tracking button on the VHS I'll get in. Right? Yeah. So stuff like that. So it's a little it's not completely 100% improv but it is like, in the moment you definitely not definitely not written anything down. So
28:59
it's like you're you have the jokes. It's just where you choose to apply them. Right?
Law Smith 29:04
Well, so I heard about Jim Carrey. A long time ago, he did a thing one summer at the Comedy Store. Before he was famous, I want to say like 8889 or something like that. And he did a summer where he got every night without anything written to see if he could do that. So like 10 years ago, I started doing that. Like how far can I go without having to do a joke like a game with
Tationa Thomas 29:26
it? It's like building that muscle. That's so
Law Smith 29:28
now I've got I've gone way too much that way, because I'm lazy, right? And now I need to work on probably writing jokes, being
Tationa Thomas 29:35
able to write them but no, I was gonna say that's also I was watching a long time ago at this point, a documentary on Little Wayne before I think he got into all the drugs and I don't know I'm not a fan of him. But he wrote hip now we only have to get into that but him now like I can't even I don't even know. It's
29:54
very strange. Like, wasn't he like extremely BFF I don't even know.
Tationa Thomas 29:57
I don't know. I think he's on a whole lot of drugs and they Just really messed him up. But he like actually tested as a genius. And he wrote, I don't, I'm gonna totally lie to you here because I have no idea. But like, his first few albums or songs, whatever, he didn't write them down. And he, there's lyrically so beautiful that these things are just come off top of his head and like he refused to write any of it down like so it's just working that memory or that muscle.
Law Smith 30:20
So a lot of rappers I compare stand up to rap is the closest thing, even because it's like you're writing your thoughts down. You're, you're hoping people feel it when you say it out loud to someone. But I also think we're bad students. So we're not like academically good students, like I was C plus, until I got into business classes. Then I got all A's and B's entrepreneurship classes, like that kind of clicked for me. But I struggled as a student and because of like, not being able to regurgitate a lot of stuff, right? So you weren't
30:56
an off the cuff person. Or, or even worse,
Law Smith 30:59
I would get a C plus on a test, I look up what I got wrong on the test. And then I remember what I got wrong later. So I actually was doing the academic part, like in a very pure way, but I didn't get the credit for it. That's why
31:13
That's why it's school in general sub national school,
Law Smith 31:17
my entrepreneurship program was like, You're gonna go write a business plan for the crematorium outside of the city. And you're like, what, I don't want to do that. I don't know. I don't even know how to write a business plan. And you'd have to figure out all this shit. And that was like,
31:30
fly and you like that? That will? Yeah.
Law Smith 31:33
A little bit. But it was like, that's part of the program. Being an entrepreneurs. There's no roadmap, right? There's no linear map. Yeah, there's no
31:42
preach it all the time. We're like all about failures
Law Smith 31:44
and learning from that. And we the first thing we handed in was like, talk shit. And he was like, go, go read it, go figure this out. Because this is garbage. And we're like, okay. And not knowing anything about a crematorium, or a dolphin boat or whatever. A trailer park community like all these, all these things, either write business plans for you just have to, you have to research, analyze that put it out there in that kind of format that you needed to get funding, but that's entrepreneurship to degree and standups rappers. They don't there's no, you can ask. You can ask 10. Comedians, how they write jokes, and you're gonna get 10 different answers, right? It's
Tationa Thomas 32:29
whatever works for you. Yeah.
32:31
Brandon won't even work for you. If you're like, Oh, this is what I do. I was I know Kevin Hart writes, he's a writer and he's like, holmes. Oh, well, now he's one of my friends is what I was gonna say. No, like, no, but I mean, like, originally, like, he was like, that was really he didn't he pored over his content, right?
Law Smith 32:46
in Philly, he did all the did all the shitty shows. He started with BJ liquor said and Keith Robinson, and they would drive to New York all the time. But he wanted to be a mogul. He wanted to
32:56
be bigger than and what is He manifested that he's got a crazy
Law Smith 33:00
hustle, though? Like yeah, I don't think she's like natural.
33:04
I love it. I love it. I literally like I admire him so much. Not just as a comedian, but as a human being. But I think one thing that's really interesting is how hard he works at his jokes, which I think is really interesting, because someone like that. I feel like there are lots of other people who are equally as funny, who are like, yeah, go out there and just fucking say shit. And it's funny, and it's interesting, and it's appealing and you follow it you like it just as much. Where's Kevin Harris is like long, like very long, where you're not laughing for minutes and minutes and minutes. Like, is this gonna be fun? And then somehow at the end, and
Tationa Thomas 33:34
so right back?
33:36
He has like that joke about the dog like that pooped where he's like telling the story that or he thinks it's his dog, or like is walking walking around trying to figure out who shit and he's like, who shit is this? Like, the baby has a clean diaper? Like nobody and it's really it's this and he's like, he put the dog in the crate he's like obviously it's his dog ship. He's like really doesn't look like dogs yet. I know my dogs I don't get the whole thing it took so long to get to like the punchline which was that the baby actually moved into diaper and
Law Smith 34:03
to get to that bit you already have trust with him. Right? Right. He's already he's already
34:08
the son so you have to make you have to make people laugh before
Law Smith 34:11
he got you there. So there there is like there's a little bit of thematic with it. Like if I do a long set, I like wrong. Why is one of my favorites and he's so funny too. I keep the mic in the stand like him because I I found myself jumping around too much add lies.
Tationa Thomas 34:29
I gotta say that.
Law Smith 34:31
And I've gotten to open for him a couple of times and talk to him and stuff. And he he's him Chappelle and Lucy Kerr like my top three for 20 years, but
34:41
at least ks canceled.
Law Smith 34:43
Now I know a little bit more about that. Not enough to put on a podcast but
34:48
there I don't like getting anyway
Law Smith 34:51
you can look out calculated we're talking about what's the Santas you could look how calculated that was to cancel him.
34:57
Oh, you don't even have to tell me guys Feeling as it sounds like I wish I love that I'm not no I'm not even that hashtag believe her person. I'm like, hashtag believe the truth. Let's excavate it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm hashtag believe the evidence
Law Smith 35:10
was the shit out there. Yeah, right. Yeah,
35:13
I'm failing Ron why he like wrong, right? Like for
Law Smith 35:17
a while because he starts out with him. If you've watched his set, it's like, a bunch of short jokes that are really good storytelling. And I think that that's
35:25
important to build trust with the audience. And like that's always like I go in with nothing but he goes in with the autumn you'll go into industry, right as I'm saying, you're not really going in with nothing. You're going in with the idea of like, I know how to establish trust with the audience automatic
Tationa Thomas 35:38
but the psychology behind people.
Law Smith 35:40
I'm thinking to barring though, where you were talking about you only get five, seven minutes or something like that.
Tationa Thomas 35:44
Three on Wednesdays, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be okay. Yeah, I don't know there
Law Smith 35:50
too. So well, a new a new comics probably gonna get three minutes because
Tationa Thomas 35:53
Oh, yeah,
35:55
that's all you need. I mean, it's
Tationa Thomas 35:58
no longer though these people be bombing it like some of them are funny, but some of them are like that. Stretching it to take swings
Law Smith 36:05
too. And, and the first time you do it, yeah, I wouldn't want you there. If it's your would you say your husband or my fiance and your fiance? Oh,
Tationa Thomas 36:15
he wants me there. He doesn't care. He can bomb.
36:16
He's pretty shameless, though. He's
Tationa Thomas 36:18
like, nothing makes everybody uncomfortable.
Law Smith 36:24
If I'm dating a woman, I don't tell her to come up to a Stand Up Show. Unless I know it's like a dude proud. I know. Like, I can go in and get out of there with a good good guy set. That's so like watching your guy dancing. That's you
36:37
knows who I shouldn't think drop on his hands, but it'll get out so much later. That doesn't even matter. Damn something he plays guitar and this piano. It's like, St. Pete ish. Anyway, he's like, a comedian. I guess he's like, mean something. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, he I'm asked with him on a dating app. And then he was like, invited me to a show. And I was like, Do you need fans? Like, that's like, weird to me. Like,
Law Smith 37:04
it's way more logistical? It's because all our nights are spent going out. Right? So it's really taught. And for people that don't know, stand out, it is magical.
37:15
So totally.
Tationa Thomas 37:18
Right. No, and I drink for free. So it's probably a little bit of a cheaper day.
37:21
I'm just saying, you know, but like, to me, it's like I'm like not like it's not really my thing to be like I want to come observe what you do for a living because I'm just like, that's cool. I would totally go see you if I have like an established interest in you like to start Berlin
Law Smith 37:36
to go to one like match with the guy standard show and then go see the first time you meet him
37:42
be show because you'll you said it's kind of like the way to be like am I look at me I'm on stage. I'm very interesting. It's like Right,
Law Smith 37:50
right he do is a material which I would do the same thing. His a material like his best material.
37:55
Oh, really? That's like a real thing. Oh, yeah. He's
Tationa Thomas 37:59
gonna impress you gotta get your home.
38:04
Not just him. Just yuck.
Law Smith 38:06
For that idea. To freshens up my cheers,
Tationa Thomas 38:09
Brittany after Yeah.
38:12
So anyway, I wasn't actually I wasn't sure. Like, I was like thinking to myself like about it. And I was like,
Law Smith 38:16
Are my shorts great. I noticed that the audio podcast,
38:19
honestly, no, you I feel like you've gotten you've gotten more muscular since last time. I see. You and also like, maybe a little bit fatter, but also more modular. Game
38:29
on both, probably. Yeah.
38:31
Anyways, I was gonna say, is that like a thing that you've used? As a comedian? Yeah, for sure.
Tationa Thomas 38:37
I would if I was funny. What if I'm funny? I'm Sandy be funny.
Law Smith 38:42
Absolutely. Yeah, we'll look like dating. You're just trying to mitigate all the bad things in the beginning. Right. So
38:51
comedians are like the hottest men if we're being honest.
Law Smith 38:55
You do comedy, because you're usually the ogre.
Tationa Thomas 38:57
Right? And you cope with it by making fun of everything.
Law Smith 39:02
You're either have a super traumatic childhood, and or you're kind of the, you know, go kid in the class or something.
Tationa Thomas 39:10
I mean, so were you the class clown.
Law Smith 39:16
Like I went to Catholic high school were Bert kreischer. Another comic, and I'm working class wit we didn't have class clown at 20 We were
Tationa Thomas 39:29
You were the class what class wit that's like your name that you have that super
39:33
little the plaque. Oh my gosh,
Law Smith 39:36
my kids the other day. Yeah, I was finding all this old stuff and I was like, What did I feel bad throwing away old like awards and stuff or plaques or whatever. And you're just like
39:46
every all my cheerleading trophies like immediately like these are meaningless support tools
Law Smith 39:51
the patient trophy like you got in cheerleading. Yeah, I was putting those away for sure.
39:55
Some of them were winning competitions. So yeah,
Tationa Thomas 39:59
I'm proud sure my mom's like addict
40:03
me I wasn't the reason we won for sure I was in the back but yeah, we still want
Law Smith 40:08
well someone's got a hold up other
Tationa Thomas 40:13
people I was that person too and I was really good so we're not going
40:17
to be born fighting fix.
Tationa Thomas 40:20
God did that throw the shit out of some girls well basket tosses it out
Law Smith 40:26
with great power comes great responsibility
40:31
anyway so I thank you for the drink but Oh you're welcome of course you know after then you just called me fat
Law Smith 40:38
or you call your shots, shots fired first. By the way I don't have any I don't go out to heckle anybody but if someone comes at me, then it's game on. I get excited if I so if your your your boo is up, you're Beyonce with an F Beyonce I got I just That's how she used to tell my friend another comedian from Houston. Used to tell a story on stage about how Beyonce that's how she tell people her name. It's like fiance with a bee. That's a little fun fact. But anyway, if I see like your husband, or your future husband getting heckled on stage, yes, yes. I get like a rush out of it. Because I'm like, I want them to come at me if I'm after him. I don't know what that is. But
41:24
why it's easier. It's like It's like almost like it animates you. Right?
Law Smith 41:29
Well, it brings me back to my shit talking days in college in high school with all my girlfriends. It's like I got eight years this Elise, so
Tationa Thomas 41:36
I think that's what he would want to just off the top because he's real quick and witty like that. I think he would like that.
41:41
He's very wordy. He's very wordy. So I feel like he's going to be very
Tationa Thomas 41:45
laughing and I will take off my ring and like put in my pocket. Right? So we leave. I'm not a clapping for you. And I'm not getting the crowd. So you better do it on your own and I will support the hell out. And then I'll cry
Law Smith 41:56
for at least a month.
Tationa Thomas 41:58
No matter what. No, yeah, no, I listen to him. Yeah, just just just tell me like leave the vicinity and then we're all got parked on the way home to get back to the
42:11
job. He'll get banged in the parking lot or if he does bad job.
Law Smith 42:15
How unfuckable is he?
Tationa Thomas 42:16
Oh, he's not he's awesome. Okay, he's too great. He really he's actually just funny in real life. So
42:21
if I'm allowed to marry him too, but she's like, I don't know you
Tationa Thomas 42:25
can't marry him because we're not splitting the assets but you can like not
Law Smith 42:31
be like the Yeah, you can be like a full house situation.
42:34
That's I'm trying to I'm I really am. Yes, man has been paying for my coffee every Saturday morning when I wake up over there. He's like $10 Why are you waking up at the
Tationa Thomas 42:44
dollar store? For the podcast anyway. On Wednesdays, if anybody else wants to come join us
Law Smith 42:54
live we need you. When does this come out?
Tationa Thomas 42:57
That's a whole other situation where
42:59
we're still in the process of originally having girls chat. Yeah, that's pretty funny. No, we have honestly like probably seven episodes for season four. We just haven't
Law Smith 43:08
Oh, seasons.
Tationa Thomas 43:10
Yeah, well, we've been both kind of going through I took a month off to go up north visit my family and she has been having some stuff going on. So we decided we were just ending our last season as you were gonna really
43:20
really go hang out with him and I got screamed at to a point that I'd like hang up with him and he was like, Are you dead? Can you please confirm
Tationa Thomas 43:27
which is why she's been staying with me on Saturday night because I'm like come to my house go Yeah, nothing please don't die.
Law Smith 43:34
Definitely some some concern going on.
Tationa Thomas 43:37
Over like, you know, this is a perfect time to revamp our stuff. Get some episodes under our belt. Come out with a bang and honestly, all of our episodes have been gold. I can't wait for season four to drop
43:49
including this one. Yeah. insight into how would we atomic
Law Smith 43:52
what else? Do you want to know make sure No,
43:55
I was gonna say so I think our our other most important question that we always like to wrap up with again,
Law Smith 44:01
it's not big, but it gets the job.
44:06
Or not even funny.
Tationa Thomas 44:10
Oh my god, I hate that. I'm laughing because you guys can't see this on the audio but I'm missing a tooth and like it's really making me not want to laugh. Fucking comedian here and we're like, I know everybody. Oh, I don't care. I make fun of myself at this point. Because
44:28
we I want to
Law Smith 44:29
wait because you brought it up before I bring it up. You're something you wouldn't have brought up. But I'm gonna bring it to you. This is like you go on stage and they go. Alright, you gotta be squeaky clean. You're like you need to talk about shit. I want to know, like,
44:45
all my things.
Law Smith 44:47
Corporate games, and they're like, alright, you gotta be squeaky clean. Like, everybody's eating at the table. This is the worst scenario. You have like a Bob Barker microphone attached to a podium and you're like, I can't take the fucking Okay, yeah, I'll keep it clean. And I just go, hey, the first thing I'll go now, there's so many a couple of times I'm trying to do that trying to keep it clean for whoever the Booker is. And then now I just go up, and I go, Hey, I'm supposed to keep this set pretty clean. How about a night? Would you guys like that? They're like, then it's like, alright, what I went down.
45:23
And that's your first job. Which is similar to chewing nicotine gum apparently.
Law Smith 45:31
Gives me a little pep.
Tationa Thomas 45:34
Wait real quick went? Why did you what's the inspiration behind your podcast? Why did you start it when? And like, how did that come to?
Law Smith 45:42
So I have my own business advisory slash digital agency called toca. Baba, for about five years. And a lot of it was just a, I always want to learn from others that have been there in the entrepreneurial way. So this is a
45:59
reason to make them talk to me.
Law Smith 46:02
Well, in a weird way, like, I wouldn't have a lot of conversations with people if I wasn't like, Hey, would you come on our show and kind of impart your wisdom? You know, people love
46:11
that. So flattering it is.
Tationa Thomas 46:13
We got you here. I don't know, it was all Brittany. My kids were so one or the other, we have both.
Law Smith 46:21
So like I I'm in, in kind of the, if you're in digital marketing, that was a lot of my focus, like, you have to kind of be autodidactic. And you always have to keep learning and kind of learning from others. Because there's no, there's no continued education that's formal with it. And so part of it was that part of it was like, I needed a marketing tactic to at least get something out about what I'm doing. Because a lot of people knew me as a comic, and not on this side on the professional side. And then through not serious I am when it gets to business, but it's like, if it's someone's real, you know, business that they're coming in for my friend calls me a business therapists because a lot of people would come in and just spill everything out. And that kind of became a little bit of a niche, having a lot of attorneys as clients too. But then also, like, I needed a place to kind of other than on stage to kind of get out, I was about to have my first kid. So I knew I wasn't gonna be able to get on stage a lot. So I need that creative outlet, too. And thank God, I have it because now I can come. If we don't have a guest, I'll just have like, here's 10 Things I've written down, that I'm just annoyed about. And just will riff with Eric about it. Yeah. And Eric Marcos, we've never been
47:43
he's not funny. Comedian is
Law Smith 47:47
funny, but we have kind of a stick going.
47:51
I really he's like the straight guy, though.
Law Smith 47:52
Well, his thing is like to never laugh at anything I do on air, which is kind of funny in itself. So if I get something that I get them to laugh about a month, it's got legs. But But yeah, he he's not a comedian. He's done it a few times. But he's not even call himself one. But him and I've we've worked together for six years and never been in a fight. And he was working for me in my office. So it was kind of like, it was kind of awesome when we be in the office working and be like, Hey, let's like one o'clock, let's just knock out an episode. That's awesome. to kind of take a break from sitting in the computer.
Tationa Thomas 48:29
Oh, that's awesome. Yeah.
48:30
We like think about it all the time. We're just like, Hey, we should just record our podcasts every night.
Law Smith 48:34
You guys are on the way to moving in with each other. I feel it.
Tationa Thomas 48:37
Yeah. And then this thing is just going to take the whole lot more guests at this point, because
48:43
just gonna have so much availability to and all
Tationa Thomas 48:45
we do is talk already so there's that.
Law Smith 48:47
Yeah, y'all should be going on other people's podcasts, too. We should do that more.
Tationa Thomas 48:51
We just haven't had the time we're finally getting to the point where we can like carve out the time. Well, at least for me, I can't speak for you, but I just
48:59
like I've just been able to carve myself out of my life. You know what I mean?
Law Smith 49:02
I'm gonna mansplain but break. Break breaker. If you're getting flustered with time I do this all the time. My mentor told me to do this. It's really dorky. But write out your day in 15 minute increments on a piece of notebook paper. Do that for a week. Write it out in the morning or the night before? Right? Every 15
49:23
minute increments. I was like short,
Law Smith 49:25
right? That's the point. You'll realize how much time you actually have in the day. Oh, you do a lot of double talk we do a lot of like thinking about doing and not doing that. That knocks me out of that bad
49:37
huh? Yeah, actually one of the one of the people we've had on for season four was talking about there's energy leaks where you just need to stop them up. You see a Stop mumbling off all this energy or just kick the energy sucking vampires out of your life. Yeah, yeah. That creates a whole new I just I was telling someone what are available emotionally now because I like don't feel like I'm dropping other people. Yeah,
Law Smith 49:58
right. Right. It Well, that's kind of what it does. It gives you kind of a ledger of like, is this worth my time or not?
Tationa Thomas 50:06
Fighting us on your podcast? Yeah, you're
Law Smith 50:07
welcome on anytime.
50:09
Hello. laugh at your jokes. Maybe,
Law Smith 50:12
maybe not with Eric hears this but
Tationa Thomas 50:17
Brittany said that
Law Smith 50:19
a few times,
50:20
not a few times once but once Just once again.
Law Smith 50:24
I feel like it was more and more just one time. Or maybe I was on
50:27
yours. No, you weren't on ours. You just were just around a lot of the times you were there.
Law Smith 50:32
So just help y'all get your podcast.
50:34
I mean, it's fine. I actually,
Law Smith 50:36
I'm the genesis of this thing.
50:38
Okay. Without connected to Mel, my friend Mel who just got married. He was connected to her. Gotcha. And so that's how I met him. And then he just used to roast me all the time and pretend I liked anal. And that was his that was a
Tationa Thomas 50:51
that's a really good way to meet though.
Law Smith 50:52
I didn't pretend you brought it
50:54
up. No, no, he's making a play Britney did
Tationa Thomas 50:57
no that's really good. She does her. Britney Well, I
51:06
have you dignified as law podcast, man.
Tationa Thomas 51:11
We're just numbers in my phone.
Law Smith 51:13
Great. Great. Got some alliteration
51:14
in there. Oh, God. I hope I texted you and you're dating that Blondie, though. That would be like, Oh, but play Britney's in Yeah. Anyway. Okay, so. Okay, so our last question that we like to ask people
Law Smith 51:27
is it's the job done.
51:31
myself. I'm finally at suicide ideation. I'm lower than you officially. So anyway, if you look, go back to before your divorce and give yourself some sentence of clarity. Like go back to the you that you were before
Tationa Thomas 51:48
you bro. Knowing all that, you know now?
51:51
Yeah. What would you say to you?
Law Smith 51:53
Oh, sounds like a familiar question that we asked on our podcast. Don't
51:58
they use something similar?
Tationa Thomas 51:59
I just want to clarify that this is my question. I just became a fan today.
Law Smith 52:05
Well, you didn't make it to the end of the pocket.
52:08
On both shore and we're also we're also both entrepreneur minded podcast.
Law Smith 52:12
We ask everybody the first time on our show. If you could go back in time to when you were 13 you get an A Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure like phone booth. You can go back in time and talk to yourself at 13. Grab yourself by the lapels. What would you tell yourself?
Tationa Thomas 52:28
You were way better than I did? We've taken it
52:32
to you but like ours is really. I think it's important because it's like we're talking about like the moment before your most like what you
Law Smith 52:40
don't lose your sense of self. That's right. That's what I really.
Tationa Thomas 52:43
Yeah. I feel like most of the people we ask this question. They're like, Oh, that was a good one. I don't know. But he's had so much time to prepare. I bet you I feel kind of cheated on this one. It wasn't exciting. But I do want to hear
Law Smith 52:58
I lost my sense of self. I'm not I'm not codependent in any way really. But I, I guess I did think my then wife was a better reflection of me than I was not realizing she was going through private, postpartum depression and anxiety. Allegedly, I'll say that for legal reasons or whatever. Because I don't know what she was really going through. I never really got down to it, even when I suggested it a few times. But I didn't know there was a diet, postpartum anxiety I knew about postpartum depression.
53:28
Well, it's much more common for it to manifest anxiety or rate and a lot of
Law Smith 53:32
in a lot of trauma from her childhood, I can feel kind of came to fruition, and it was nothing that I could do. But I reminded her of her dad that passed away. When she was younger, it she was adopted. So there's stuff like that, and a lot of stuff that unraveled I think, when we had kids,
53:49
well, when you're in a safe relationship, and you're a child of trauma, it's almost automatic, that all the shit that you haven't dealt with comes up because you're finally in a space that you can process. And if you don't realize that about yourself, like, Oh, I'm actually safe here. And it's okay for me to go through this. And I don't have to blame it on anyone. Yeah.
Law Smith 54:06
And the pragmatic thing I'd say is, like, get our sleep schedule, because I wasn't sleeping, and it was fucking me up. I was like, delete,
54:15
like, leave on high G bitches. Have some sleep. It
Law Smith 54:20
was like, sleeping three hours a night, a lot of the time, three days in a row, and then I crash hard. And we had, we had two kids that were 13 months apart.
Tationa Thomas 54:30
Oh, you guys are back to back just right.
Law Smith 54:33
And it was one of those things the business was doing well that I had, but she didn't really get it. And I should have I could have been we would have ended up in the same place at some point anyway,
54:44
right. Took you for granted in the relationship.
Law Smith 54:47
Maybe she thinks it's the other way around. For sure.
Tationa Thomas 54:50
So you guys still aren't on good terms as long as we don't talk
Law Smith 54:53
as long as you have to do this.
54:56
For now, don't go into my colony. Well, thank you so much. Well for agreeing to do this and eating all of our snacks
Law Smith 55:02
are good. I made fun of the gluten cookies beforehand but they're pretty good right and gluten free cookies I should say grain free,
55:09
even grain free not even any sugar, no grain right? Those are sugar and
Tationa Thomas 55:14
they're basically Eric cookies and they're really good. Sugar
55:19
Are they good?
Tationa Thomas 55:20
Or healthy? So don't ask me
Law Smith 55:22
these are Pogs from the 90s we made them look like cookies. Well,
55:27
thank you for being on our show. We appreciate it kind of like an update Joe she's gearing the entire season. I can't
Tationa Thomas 55:35
I'm not even gonna try to make her because we love Britney for all that she is. So we appreciate
Law Smith 55:40
you saw that. Billboard. Don't love the people for who you want them to be love them for who they are.
Tationa Thomas 55:45
Amen to that and love. We love you for who you are. I'm so happy to have met you and
Law Smith 55:50
I'll see you on Wednesday.
Tationa Thomas 55:52
What's Wednesday? On your podcast on Wednesday
Law Smith 56:00
I'll send the book my fanny pack.
Brittany J 56:05
Listening to my podcast, daily dose of the I really hope you liked it. If you did, leave me a five star review. You know the drill. It'll help me in the algos and I will love you forever. Have a great one.
